Queen Noor was married before King Hussein,a fact or a rumour?

[Monalisa]

According to the spanish magazine Hola,it reported in Queen Noor's biography that she was married to an american before King Hussein,and divorced in 1977,to get married to K.Hussein at 1978.


I had a jordanian friend who told me that she was dating an other man when she came in Jordan,and she have a black son from a previous relation.


Is that a fact or only a rumour?and if it's a fact,why the official biography of the JRF doesn't have a word about that?

[Humera]

im pretty sure its nothing more than a rumour. I wouldnt pay too much attention to Hola magazine. If she had been married, Im sure they wouldnt have been able to hide something as important so well and for so long. None of Queen Noor's credible biographies mention that she was married. It is unfortunate that the various "camps" that have formed around the many members of the royal family spread such nasty rumours.
Do you honestly think that something like this could remain hidden for all these years? especially from the American press? Nothing like this has been mentioned even once in any of the credible media sources.

[kinneret5764]

Originally Posted by Monalisa

According to the spanish magazine Hola,it reported in Queen Noor's biography that she was married to an american before King Hussein,and divorced in 1977,to get married to K.Hussein at 1978.


I had a jordanian friend who told me that she was dating an other man when she came in Jordan,and she have a black son from a previous relation.


Is that a fact or only a rumour?and if it's a fact,why the official biography of the JRF doesn't have a word about that?

Do you have any pictures of her "son"?

[sommone]

Originally Posted by Monalisa

According to the spanish magazine Hola,it reported in Queen Noor's biography that she was married to an american before King Hussein,and divorced in 1977,to get married to K.Hussein at 1978.


I had a jordanian friend who told me that she was dating an other man when she came in Jordan,and she have a black son from a previous relation.


Is that a fact or only a rumour?and if it's a fact,why the official biography of the JRF doesn't have a word about that?

This is a rumor...In fact, this was one of those rumors that particularly annoyed me because they used a black man to make this rumor even more scandalous. It wasn't enough for them to slander her by saying she had a son, they had to do a double whammy, and add a black son. (Please note the sarcasm here). In fact, I posted a similar opinion on this topic in another thread about QN because I was very offended by this particular rumor because of what it implied.

[tipper]

Originally Posted by Monalisa

According to the spanish magazine Hola,it reported in Queen Noor's biography that she was married to an american before King Hussein,and divorced in 1977,to get married to K.Hussein at 1978.


I had a jordanian friend who told me that she was dating an other man when she came in Jordan,and she have a black son from a previous relation.



Is that a fact or only a rumour?and if it's a fact,why the official biography of the JRF doesn't have a word about that?

OMG, again those nasty rumours, I can't believe u can think they are true, KH would have never married her if that was true, as for the son by a black guy, I heard who spread that rumour, I think those persons are also racists.... as well as mean ppl-

[sommone]

Originally Posted by tipper

as for the son by a black guy, I heard who spread that rumour, I think those persons are also racists.... as well as mean ppl-

I was going to say the something similar, but was over come with anger, not at anyone on here, but at the person who began spreading it in the first place.

[alfie]

Originally Posted by sommone

I was going to say the something similar, but was over come with anger, not at anyone on here, but at the person who began spreading it in the first place.

Nonsense! I have read Queen Noor's biography and it doesn't have anything about her being married before.

[sommone]

Originally Posted by alfie

Nonsense! I have read Queen Noor's biography and it doesn't have anything about her being married before.

I wasn't the one who said she was married. I was one of the few in this thread to say it was a rumor.

[Moon]

Not that i believe on what you are debating, but to what extend one should believe in Royal 's biographies especially their past if they were not public figures before..

[Monalisa]

Originally Posted by kinneret5764

Do you have any pictures of her "son"?

Personally,i'm not saying that this is fact or i have some proof or photo!

I'm backing up only on Holamagazine says,and asking if somebody knows more about that!:)

[Akilah]

Originally Posted by sommone

I was going to say the something similar, but was over come with anger, not at anyone on here, but at the person who began spreading it in the first place.

Sommone,

Where you angered by the fact that the people said she was married before or that she'd had birth a biracial (black/white) son? What I find so disheartening about the Arab community is their issues of race. As I have looked at pictures and read posts on this forum I have come to notice that the issue of skin tone and softness is a matter of importance to some.

I have seen Arabs the color of African Americans in America; in America there are some blacks lighter than some members of some members of royal families, especially in the Gulf Arab states (countries), but the issue of race (skin color seems to dominate popular culture) in the Muslim world, if you are light you are right if you are brown you are down/out.

I precieve that it is the women who are very much caught up on the skin and race issue; but maybe men are too when it comes to the women and children. Yet, it seems that Arabs are like most African Americans/Blacks in America caught up on skin color and hair, it has to be this long and this color to be beautiful. So what if a sheikh falls for a woman who is African (not someone from Libya, Algeria, Egypt, Morrocco, or Tunisa) or even Anglo or white with no Arab ancestor. It seems to me that the issue of race divides a people not unities them, but maybe the Arab community has to learn as do the Africans in Africa and the Blacks/Africans in America.:)

[sommone]

Originally Posted by Akilah

Sommone,

Where you angered by the fact that the people said she was married before or that she'd had birth a biracial (black/white) son? What I find so disheartening about the Arab community is their issues of race. As I have looked at pictures and read posts on this forum I have come to notice that the issue of skin tone and softness is a matter of importance to some.

I have seen Arabs the color of African Americans in America; in America there are some blacks lighter than some members of some members of royal families, especially in the Gulf Arab states (countries), but the issue of race (skin color seems to dominate popular culture) in the Muslim world, if you are light you are right if you are brown you are down/out.

I precieve that it is the women who are very much caught up on the skin and race issue; but maybe men are too when it comes to the women and children. Yet, it seems that Arabs are like most African Americans/Blacks in America caught up on skin color and hair, it has to be this long and this color to be beautiful. So what if a sheikh falls for a woman who is African (not someone from Libya, Algeria, Egypt, Morrocco, or Tunisa) or even Anglo or white with no Arab ancestor. It seems to me that the issue of race divides a people not unities them, but maybe the Arab community has to learn as do the Africans in Africa and the Blacks/Africans in America.:)

Akilah, I was offended because of the mentioning of QN having a black son, and what that implied. I am a black woman, and found this very offensive. Not all or even most African Americans/Blacks are caught up on skin color and hair....but there are those who are. You are right, it shouldn't matter who someone falls in love with, but unfortunately not everyone agrees with this. I could discuss the whole AA having a color complex issue, but it wouldn't be appropriate here. I honestly didn't want to bring it here on this thread, but everytime I see this rumor, it makes me very upset.

[maryshawn]

QN had "relationships" with men--dating relationships in college. One was Pat Patterson, who was interviewed in "People" after her engagement was announced. He is the son of a man who was a popular coach then. He expressed amazement at her engagement to a King as he said she was so free-spirited and independent, being the wife of a King seemed so unlike her. I believe she dated some other men but that is to be expected. QR also dated men before her marriage and once dabbled on the edge of a rather dangerous situation when she was 17 as a friend recalled later. They were both at a party and a man approached them about becoming models as they were taller than most arabic women (this man's comments). But he seemed "sleazy" (that was not the exact word; I can't recall it but it was on that order, according to the friend). And while Rania was thrilled (she thought it would be a glamorous lifestyle) and wanted to pursue it, her parents put their foot down and said "absolutely not!" So she went to college and then worked and met KA at a party given by one of his sisters. And that, as they say, is that. These rumors--oh my word, so many, QN did this, QN did that, QA was murdered because Queen Zein didn't like her,.....on and on.....but like the ring of enormous value QN purchased and the estate in Florida which was very grand she decided to buy on a whim, EVERYONE had seen a bill of sale but no one could produce one. These rumors fuel perceptions some people have and are usually just a bill of goods, totally untrue. The poor woman--QN--cries at a funeral and suddenly has Israeli blood. She wept when she heard Sadat had been killed too---did that make her egyptian? Black or white or any color, what does it matter? People are people. QN had no children save for the ones she had with KH. I hate rumors.....They are so easy to create, so hard to disprove and so willingly accepted as fact by many.....and I am not just talking the JRF. It goes on with everyone. When I started my new job a few years ago, a mean-spirited secretary felt I was getting more credit for something she had done so she told people--I soon found out--I had had 5 husbands by age 30!!!! I am still looking for 4 of them as I only recall getting married once. I clearly am missing out on a lot of alimony.......darn it.

[abir]

You are right Maryshawn & Moon ... I hate as well rumors, and if we beleive they are only rumors why then we discuss them and open a thread for them.

[maryshawn]

Dear Abir, as I am reading your wonderful response, I have the QN interview promoting her book with Larry King on in the background. It is so coincidental as she is talking about how much she hated being "exposed to viscious gossip--it was eating away at me!" She said she didn't know how to handle it at first and it affected her terribly as she would read things and be totally shocked that such stuff would merit being repeated, let alone being reported. She also gets in a few comments about the horrible gossip "revealed by those the King had asked to help her--gossip was, unfortunately, part of their nature and I didn't even know many of those being gossiped about." In her book, she says his assistant in England had strong opinions and negative ones "she enjoyed sharing about KH's family, all his ex-wives, friends, even his children....." So, she is well aware of this kind of thing and despises it as much as we do!!!!! Whether directed at her or at others..... (OK, I'm going out on a limb here but whomever that assistant was would've been long gone after QN's experience with her! I wonder if she told KH this lady was talking negatively and spreading cruel rumors about his loved ones.....I would have!) I guess that's the problem with being a celebrity or royal; you have to have people you can rely on.....and you HOPE you can trust them.....but they are in positions to acquire enough information and could really do damage to you via books, etc. Just look at Princess Diana.....You become a bit trapped, it would seem.

[sommone]

Originally Posted by maryshawn

QN had "relationships" with men--dating relationships in college. One was Pat Patterson, who was interviewed in "People" after her engagement was announced. He is the son of a man who was a popular coach then. He expressed amazement at her engagement to a King as he said she was so free-spirited and independent, being the wife of a King seemed so unlike her. I believe she dated some other men but that is to be expected. QR also dated men before her marriage and once dabbled on the edge of a rather dangerous situation when she was 17 as a friend recalled later. They were both at a party and a man approached them about becoming models as they were taller than most arabic women (this man's comments). But he seemed "sleazy" (that was not the exact word; I can't recall it but it was on that order, according to the friend). And while Rania was thrilled (she thought it would be a glamorous lifestyle) and wanted to pursue it, her parents put their foot down and said "absolutely not!" So she went to college and then worked and met KA at a party given by one of his sisters. And that, as they say, is that. These rumors--oh my word, so many, QN did this, QN did that, QA was murdered because Queen Zein didn't like her,.....on and on.....but like the ring of enormous value QN purchased and the estate in Florida which was very grand she decided to buy on a whim, EVERYONE had seen a bill of sale but no one could produce one. These rumors fuel perceptions some people have and are usually just a bill of goods, totally untrue. The poor woman--QN--cries at a funeral and suddenly has Israeli blood. She wept when she heard Sadat had been killed too---did that make her egyptian? Black or white or any color, what does it matter? People are people. QN had no children save for the ones she had with KH. I hate rumors.....They are so easy to create, so hard to disprove and so willingly accepted as fact by many.....and I am not just talking the JRF. It goes on with everyone. When I started my new job a few years ago, a mean-spirited secretary felt I was getting more credit for something she had done so she told people--I soon found out--I had had 5 husbands by age 30!!!! I am still looking for 4 of them as I only recall getting married once. I clearly am missing out on a lot of alimony.......darn it.

My point is why use race period? Although I already know the answer, but it was very disrespectful and uncalled for. Also, in no way, shape, or form, do I think it is right to purposely go around spreading rumors about anyone. However, it's this particular one that cuts deep for me anyhow. I just didn't like what it implied is all.

[Moon]

Dating in America is part of the culture..Noor is an American and like many girls/women, she most probably dated before getting officially married..And whether she dated a white or a black does not make a difference at least to me...what really should matter (IMO) how many she dated if ever and whether she has any siblings before her marriage...

Again, the question Monalisa asked when she opened the thread is subject to all speculations because no one seems to know for sure the exact answer...And we are not so sure whether Noor herself says the entire truth or she is hiding some of it for whatever reasons she has...

• There are some who believe in the topic of this discussion.
• There are others who reject it and consider it a rumor.
• And there are others who are in the middle: it could be possible as it could be a rumor...

[tipper]

Originally Posted by sommone

My point is why use race period? Although I already know the answer, but it was very disrespectful and uncalled for. Also, in no way, shape, or form, do I think it is right to purposely go around spreading rumors about anyone. However, it's this particular one that cuts deep for me anyhow. I just didn't like what it implied is all.

I'm sure it was done :p on purpose by ppl who wanted to destroy her image in Jordan. :(

[Monalisa]

QUOTESommone,

Where you angered by the fact that the people said she was married before or that she'd had birth a biracial (black/white) son?

I have seen Arabs the color of African Americans in America; in America there are some blacks lighter than some members of some members of royal families, especially in the Gulf Arab states (countries), but the issue of race (skin color seems to dominate popular culture) in the Muslim world, if you are light you are right if you are brown you are down/out.

[/quote]

This is what i think,and those words are adressed to sommone,i don't think it's a issue of colo