Queen Alia thread part 1

[maryshawn]

February must be a horrible time for QA and KH's children as she died on Feb. 9th and he died on Feb. 7th. Odd coincidence but almost fitting in a way as if his death at that time so close to Alia's had some spiritual connection. Now I sound like a New Age spiritualist and I'm not but it when I learned he'd died that day, I immediately thought how close it was to QA's death and the poignancy and heartbreak for the children.

[QueenB]

That is so difficult.. also December must be an emotional month as well:
Ali was born the 23rd
KH and QA married 24th
Alia's BDay was the 25th

[maryshawn]

Originally posted by QueenB@Aug 3rd, 2004 - 6:12 am
That is so difficult.. also December must be an emotional month as well:
Ali was born the 23rd
KH and QA married 24th
Alia's BDay was the 25th

I didn't know that. I guess I have a soft spot in my heart for Ali, Haya and Abir because of all the loss they've endured in their young lives. Not to mention transitions. How could KH have been soooooo in love with Alia and remarry a year or less later???? The more I think about it, the more it bugs me. I don't understand his thinking. It's like he didn't cope with the loss, just found a replacement of sorts and said "here she is--new mom, new Queen....."

[eman]

i think this furom is very good

[bluetortuga]

The rumble comming from the Royal Compound in Amman is KH and Q Alia spinning in their repsective graves; I'm sure P. Haya's actions would have caused severe disppointment if they had been alive.

[sommone]

I think KH and QA would be proud of Ali choosing Rym to be his wife.

[NOONj]

Originally Posted by Laura Lovec

Are there more pictures of the late queen Alia ? and where can I find a good site about queen Alia ?

Thanks in advance

HI , I,VE SOME , SEND UR MAIL TO MY MAIL ,,,, THANKS

[tipper]

Originally Posted by maryshawn

February must be a horrible time for QA and KH's children as she died on Feb. 9th and he died on Feb. 7th. Odd coincidence but almost fitting in a way as if his death at that time so close to Alia's had some spiritual connection. Now I sound like a New Age spiritualist and I'm not but it when I learned he'd died that day, I immediately thought how close it was to QA's death and the poignancy and heartbreak for the children.

that must be bad for Princess Raiyah as her b-day is on Feb 9.

[sommone]

Originally Posted by NOONj

HI , I,VE SOME , SEND UR MAIL TO MY MAIL ,,,, THANKS

I know you really don't know me, but I like Queen Alia too. If I say please, can I see the pictures, too?

[draga]

You visit this page www.mgaproduction.com and search queen alia and haya, this site have a fantastics pics.

[sommone]

Originally Posted by draga

You visit this page www.mgaproduction.com and search queen alia and haya, this site have a fantastics pics.

Thanks draga.

[Jackswife]

Alia and Hussein were definitely a love match. I'm not disparaging his feelings for his other wives, but he always seemed so taken with Alia. I feel certain in saying she was the love of his life and he was devastated by her death. These are some great pictures, too, BTW.

[Ipi Tombe]

one of the pics shows QA sitting on the ground. she is wearing some brand spanking new aligator gucci pumps.

seems the more things change. the more things stay the same.

Originally Posted by draga

You visit this page www.mgaproduction.com and search queen alia and haya, this site have a fantastics pics.

[mahawi]

thank u draga for the link

[sommone]

Originally Posted by Ipi Tombe

one of the pics shows QA sitting on the ground. she is wearing some brand spanking new aligator gucci pumps.

seems the more things change. the more things stay the same.

So what's wrong with that?

[Ipi Tombe]

i was just making a fairly catty point of saying that the jordanian queens have a historical record of dressing lavishly. also, i would like to state that it does seem that the JRF is the only royal family that slathers themselve in namebrands. from my rather casual observation, it seems most European, ME and Asian monarchies are well dressed but not 'Designer' dressed-to the extent of the JRF.

even in middle class America there seems to be a backlash against many things 'branded'. so all this hype about QR wearing Designer X or Y seems quite cheap and very superficial.

Originally Posted by sommone

So what's wrong with that?

[shelley]

was just making a fairly catty point of saying that the jordanian queens have a historical record of dressing lavishly. also, i would like to state that it does seem that the JRF is the only royal family that slathers themselve in namebrands. from my rather casual observation, it seems most European, ME and Asian monarchies are well dressed but not 'Designer' dressed-to the extent of the JRF.

I am sorry to say that this younger generation of JRF by and large reflect a regrettable 'brand name ' obession that is all too common amongst certain elements of Egyptian, Jordanian, Lebanese, Palestinian, and the more 'westernised' Saudi and Gulf women. ( Although this trend for JRF women was started by Q. Noor. Q. Zein went to Balmain, and Q. Alia did wear Valentino and Dior, but for official occasions, and I had the impression that she was not as image concious as her successor - of course five years wasn't long enough to see how things would have evolved, but Q. Noor was into the the designer look within three years of her marriage) You have only to read some of the new magazines which have sprung up recently in Jordan, and which also exist in the other countries ( Living Well, Jo etc ) They are totally obessed with consumer products and news. It is a disturbing trend when a magazine can run a feature on sun glasses which range from JD 300 - 600 - when the basic wage is meant to be JD 120 - 130 per month. But tha sadly is the new Jordan for you.

[Angie]

Originally Posted by shelley

i would like to state that it does seem that the JRF is the only royal family that slathers themselve in namebrands. from my rather casual observation, it seems most European, ME and Asian monarchies are well dressed but not 'Designer' dressed-to the extent of the JRF.

Why is it the way Shelley?

[shelley]

That wasn't my statement - it was a quote from Ipi Tombe - I don't seem to be be able to make quotes look like quotes in this new format. But why ? I wish I knew ? I suppose its something to do with new money.....the Arab world saw a huge change in its spending power after the early seventies when the former trucial states gained independence as the gulf states - and by and large the rulers and the people of this region became a byword for opulent living styles, which unfortunately set the cue for the moneyed classes of the less privileged countries. Sad and bad. It was the same with the Hong Kong Chinese at a certain point, and now we see the same conspicious consumption by the newly rich Russians - I guess the clue lies in that phrase- 'newly rich'.

[Ipi Tombe]

I think it was 'Paloma' who asked the question what is 'old money' vs. 'new money'.

I don't think the whole 'conspicous consumption' thing would bother me so much if the royal wore her national designers. Mary (of Fred and Mary fame) seems to have embraced the national designers and wears them quite often. The English royals are noted for wearing English designers. The Monaco royals seem to favor the French designers.

So Rania (or Alia for that matter) wearing Prada, Calvin Klein, Aramani, Dior, Valentino or whoever I find v. unsettling. They don't look elegant. They look like bored rich housewives trolling Neimans looking for some retail therapy.

For example, Elie Saab who shot to face dressing Halle Berry in THAT dress. Is always interviewed as saying he loves to dress Rania and she is a client of his. But I can't think of one Elie Saab dress that she has worn. Now, granted Elie Saad (am I spelling the guy's name right?) is not Jordanian but he is a lot closer to home than Aramani.

Anyways, I think Armani belongs on the red carpet or Oscars not on the shoulders of a soveriegn's wife. It is too flashy.

But that is just my opinion.

Originally Posted by shelley

That wasn't my statement - it was a quote from Ipi Tombe - I don't seem to be be able to make quotes look like quotes in this new format. But why ? I wish I knew ? I suppose its something to do with new money.....the Arab world saw a huge change in its spending power after the early seventies when the former trucial states gained independence as the gulf states - and by and large the rulers and the people of this region became a byword for opulent living styles, which unfortunately set the cue for the moneyed classes of the less privileged countries. Sad and bad. It was the same with the Hong Kong Chinese at a certain point, and now we see the same conspicious consumption by the newly rich Russians - I guess the clue lies in that phrase- 'newly rich'.