Prince Hassan & Princess Sarvath- News and Pictures II

[Humera]

Prince Hassan and Princess Sarvath at the pre-wedding reception for Alexia of Greece, 1999

[papillon]

From the QR thread:

Originally Posted by nilah

QN and P.Sarvath did have some plastic surgeries. They are not original either.

It's obvious to me that QN has had a lot of work, but what work do you think P. Sarvath has had? Can you show me in before and after photos?

[Humera]

Nope not Princess Sarvath.
She is simply not the type.
Many women age gracefully and just because they're famous and wealthy doesnt mean they they'll have plastic surgery.
Besides its not like Sarvath was getting all wrinkly and saggy before and suddenly she isnt.
I know plenty of women who have never gone near a plastic surgeon and they look fabulous for their age. They took care of themselves all their lives and are now reaping the benefits.

[papillon]

Originally Posted by ~*~Humera~*~

Nope not Princess Sarvath.
She is simply not the type.
Many women age gracefully and just because they're famous and wealthy doesnt mean they they'll have plastic surgery.
Besides its not like Sarvath was getting all wrinkly and saggy before and suddenly she isnt.
I know plenty of women who have never gone near a plastic surgeon and they look fabulous for their age. They took care of themselves all their lives and are now reaping the benefits.

I don't think she's had any, either. And I am very good at spotting it.

[Humera]

CAPTION: Princess SARVATH BINT MUHAMMED IKRAMULLAH, PRINCE EL HASSAN BIN TATAL OF JORDAN, MARGIT FISCHER and President of Austria HEINZ FISCHER honors Prince Tatal with the Big Medal for Merits for the Republik. October 15, 2004.

[Humera]

1-3. CAPTION: The Prince EL HASSAN BIN TALAL of Jordon pictured with his wife, the Princess Sarvath, was appointed president of Club Roma in Madrid, Spain, by the King, Juan Carlos of Spain. November 28, 2000

4. May 1998 Tokyo

[Humera]

I noticed that P. Sarvath is wearing the same shalwar kameez in Madrid in 2000 and the one she wore earlier this month. At first I couldnt see it but the embroidered motif at the bottom of the kameez is the same. I dont know any woman who wears the same shalwar kameez within a period of 5 years.
She just changed the dupatta (scarf) and handbag. I like the red better.
Still, good for Sarvath.

[shelley]

Originally Posted by papillon

I don't think she's had any, either. And I am very good at spotting it.

I honestly don't think Princess S. has had any cosmetic surgery. I don't think she is that interested in her appearance, quite frankly. Her face does change from time to time, but I think this is more due to fluctuations of weight and hair styles. The features are always the same. Compare them with pictures of her when much younger. Someone somewhere mentioned the advantage Indian/Pakistani skin has over western or paler skin, and I think this is why she looks reasonably good for her age.

[shelley]

Originally Posted by ~*~Humera~*~

I noticed that P. Sarvath is wearing the same shalwar kameez in Madrid in 2000 and the one she wore earlier this month. At first I couldnt see it but the embroidered motif at the bottom of the kameez is the same. I dont know any woman who wears the same shalwar kameez within a period of 5 years.
She just changed the dupatta (scarf) and handbag. I like the red better.
Still, good for Sarvath.

I remember reading in one of Princess Sarvath' s rare interviews, that what she like about traditional saris, is that you can wear the same ones year and after year and not be making a huge fashion gaffe. This is probably true about Arab clothes as well, but as we have said again and again, unfortunately, most women of the JRF, recently at any rate, have gone in for ultra fashionable European designs. If you look in the Princess Sarvath's work album, her choice is western clothes is also pretty classic and timeless. IMO better if you belong to a poor country, whatever the family's personal wealth may or may not be.

[Humera]

Originally Posted by shelley

I remember reading in one of Princess Sarvath' s rare interviews, that what she like about traditional saris, is that you can wear the same ones year and after year and not be making a huge fashion gaffe. This is probably true about Arab clothes as well, but as we have said again and again, unfortunately, most women of the JRF, recently at any rate, have gone in for uTRFa fashionable European designs. If you look in the Princess Sarvath's work album, her choice is western clothes is also pretty classic and timeless. IMO better if you belong to a poor country, whatever the family's personal wealth may or may not be.

Yes thats true in a way.
I wouldnt entirely agree because just like the shalwar kameez, the sari's look changes with time. It is logical for trends in clothing, any clothing, to change and evolve and reflect the changes in society.
btw..did you get my very lengthy pm a while back?

[Humera]

Originally Posted by shelley

I honestly don't think Princess S. has had any cosmetic surgery. I don't think she is that interested in her appearance, quite frankly. Her face does change from time to time, but I think this is more due to fluctuations of weight and hair styles. The features are always the same. Compare them with pictures of her when much younger. Someone somewhere mentioned the advantage Indian/Pakistani skin has over western or paler skin, and I think this is why she looks reasonably good for her age.

black skin is even better. Darker skins dont age as badly and quickly.

[Reina]

I think that one should be careful of putting PSarvath on too high a pedestal. Even if she has had plastic surgery that doesn't make her less of a person. I think minor plastic surgery is ok, especially as one gets older.

[Humera]

Ofcourse there's nothing wrong with it. But there is something wrong with alleging that someone's had surgery just because one finds them too good for their age.
Women these days look better for longer. Just like we live longer, have better health.

[shelley]

Originally Posted by ~*~Humera~*~

Yes thats true in a way.
I wouldnt entirely agree because just like the shalwar kameez, the sari's look changes with time. It is logical for trends in clothing, any clothing, to change and evolve and reflect the changes in society.
btw..did you get my very lengthy pm a while back?

I absolutely agree with you regarding shalwar kameezes, but as far as saris are concerned, there are 'fashionable' saris and the very classic styles, which can still be bought easily in the right sort of shop, unlike western clothes, where one can only find older styles in thrift shops or your grandmother's attic ! From what I can see, Princess Sarvath seems to stick to the very trad. saris rather than branch out into the more funky styles. Yes I did get your long and very informative message, thank you. :) Maybe we shouldn't make too much off all of this. It could just be that she is lazy where clothes are concerned, and cannot be bothered to spend much time and effort ( and money ) on being 'in fashion' ! Another thought,as I am looking at Princess Sarvath's mother's book. Her mother's family were from Bengal, which is almost entirely sari wearing, which may have some bearing on her continuing to wear this style as well. She really is a mixture of so many different influences and cultures from within the subcontinent. Must get quite confusing at times. From my readings of history of that region, most people belonged to one or two of the three countries ie India, Pakistan, Bangladesh. Is Princess Sarvath unusual in having connections in all three ? Ethnically, she seems Indian and Bangladeshi ( or Bengali ). Politically I guess she would be considered Pakistani. Confusing to say the least. And then Arab by marriage. Phew !

[Humera]

Originally Posted by shelley

I absolutely agree with you regarding shalwar kameezes, but as far as saris are concerned, there are 'fashionable' saris and the very classic styles, which can still be bought easily in the right sort of shop, unlike western clothes, where one can only find older styles in thrift shops or your grandmother's attic ! From what I can see, Princess Sarvath seems to stick to the very trad. saris rather than branch out into the more funky styles. Yes I did get your long and very informative message, thank you. :) Maybe we shouldn't make too much off all of this. It could just be that she is lazy where clothes are concerned, and cannot be bothered to spend much time and effort ( and money ) on being 'in fashion' ! Another thought,as I am looking at Princess Sarvath's mother's book. Her mother's family were from Bengal, which is almost entirely sari wearing, which may have some bearing on her continuing to wear this style as well. She really is a mixture of so many different influences and cultures from within the subcontinent. Must get quite confusing at times. From my readings of history of that region, most people belonged to one or two of the three countries ie India, Pakistan, Bangladesh. Is Princess Sarvath unusual in having connections in all three ? Ethnically, she seems Indian and Bangladeshi ( or Bengali ). Politically I guess she would be considered Pakistani. Confusing to say the least. And then Arab by marriage. Phew !

Yes I think its due to her personal taste and preference which there is nothing wrong with really.
Well being of Bengali origin is evident in Sarvath's face, her features. A lot of Pakistanis look different. No I dont think Sarvath is unusual in having such connections. After all, before the subcontinent split up into these 3 nations, everyone belonged to one country. After partition, families were scattered all over. My mom and dad's families are from India originally as I mentioned before. Infact my dad's family even has origins in Burma, which also used to be a colony. I wouldnt call Sarvath Indian or Bangladeshi ethnically. Those countries, like Pakistan, are recent political creations, not ethnic. Infact the inhabitants of the subcontinent never even call themselves "Indians" until the 19th century as the word was used by foreigners including the Brits, to describe them. The Greeks were the first to call the region "Indica"
This area has always been incredibly diverse. Within both India and Pakistan there are countless ethnic groups, Pakistan has Punjabis, Sindhis, Balochis, Pakhtuns, and many others including peoples who live in the north like the Kalash tribe (descendents of Alexander the Great). And India has similar diversity. We're talking about a very culturally, ethnically, linguistically, diverse region.
Facinating subject though.

[Lyonnaise]

Caption:
SHUNEH, JORDAN - MAY 20: Prince Hasan (L), uncle of King Abdullah of Jordan, chats with the advisor of the King of Moroco at the opening of the World Economic Forum in the Dead Sea resort of Shuneh May 20, 2005 35 kilometers west of Amman, Jordan. The three-day conference aims at helping leaders seize on the climate of change that has begun to spread in several of their countries. (Photo by Salah Malkawi/Getty Images)

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From The Jordan Times


HRH Prince Hassan signs the city of Hannover's Golden Book as Hannover Mayor Herbert Schmalstieg looks on.

Globalisation Should Incorporate Universal Ethic of Human Solidarity — Prince Hassan

AMMAN (JT) — HRH Prince Hassan encouraged civil society proponents this week to ensure that the reality of globalisation promotes human fraternity rather than contributes to conflict.

Addressing the 30th Protestant Kirchentag, a major civil society festival taking place this year in Hannover, Germany, on the subject of “Globalisation and Civil Society,” Prince Hassan spoke about his ideas for a humanitarian approach combining the efforts of the World Economic Forum and the World Social Forum.

This would help create a new conceptual and practical framework that encourages a rational, moderate and sustainable globalisation, since “we share this life and we each have a responsibility to each other as to ourselves in order to avert the worst,” the Prince said.

In his speech, which he delivered in German, Prince Hassan said globalisation is not just an economic phenomenon, but a human one, and it should therefore incorporate a universal ethic of human solidarity, enhancing what is universal and respecting differences.

This approach, the Prince stated, is based on an understanding and respect for diversity of religious belief and practice, rejecting both cultural relativism and religious absolutism.

“We must be committed to the agenda for the New International Humanitarian Order and the law of peace. Global thinking should be translated into local and regional actions, to build from the bottom up. The progress of civil society, in Islamic societies as in others, goes hand-in-hand with the development of a secure sense of identity, a respect for the rule of law, a culture of multiculturalism, and equality in all spheres of life.”

Prince Hassan noted how little of the funds promised for Iraq's reconstruction has actually been spent, in contrast to the vast sums allocated to weapons and defence in the region. :(

He also highlighted the Arab world's human development issues and several intraregional and inter-regional civil society projects, such as the Middle East Citizens' Assembly, the Barcelona Process, the Parliament of Cultures and Partners in Humanity.

Observing that the Middle East region is not mobilising the full extent of its many resources, the Prince also called for the establishment of a regional economic and social council, such as that exists in Europe, in order to boost the region's human development.

Prince Hassan's appearance at the Kirchentag also included a panel discussion and a question and answer session with the audience.

Tuesday, May 31, 2005


From Petra

Prince Hassan Delivers Speech at Protestant Church Conference

Hanover, May 30 (Petra) -- HRH Prince Hassan Ben Talal reiterated that globalization does not call for conflict and it's not just an economic phenomenon but also a human one.

Prince Hassan called, in a speech in front of participants in the Protestant Church Conference held in the German city of Hanover, to unify efforts of the World Economic Forum and International Social Forum with a view to achieve human approach to sustain globalization and take part in a dialogue on the world visions.

Prince Hassan pointed in his speech, which was delivered in the German language, to the slightness of allocations for the reconstruction of Iraq when compared to money allocated for weapons and defense in the region.

It is noted that HRH Prince Hassan talked, in his contribution to the conference under the title ''Pulses of the World in the Scale,'' about the impacts of the goals of development in the 3rd millennium, the initiative of Marshall international project, the strategy of the joint European market and the strategy of Lisbon.