King Hussein's Children

[zento]

it s*cks to be king for those reasons and also you have to fly a lot and planes are so insecure ..

[cut1me]

Originally posted by sommone+Jun 26th, 2004 - 2:15 am--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (sommone @ Jun 26th, 2004 - 2:15 am)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-maryshawn@Jun 26th, 2004 - 1:25 am
I have read articles from a ways back that Prince Ali was heir apparent after Queen Alia's death.&nbsp; Perhaps it was prompted by KH's grief.&nbsp; Then, Hamzah appeared and KH grew very close to him--thought he was most like him.&nbsp; So many people believe Hamzah was KH's real choice to succeed him as he saw himself in Hamzah.&nbsp; And, yes, I'm sure QN helped cultivate that relationship and edge Ali out.&nbsp; THAT could be the reason for the coolness in the relationship between Noor and Alia's children.&nbsp; It seemed to start out pleasantly enough before Hamzah's birth.&nbsp; I always thought Ali was charismatic and charming--but seemed to drop off the radar screen--perhaps because of his poor behavior.&nbsp; I know Noor says she had nothing to do with succession choices because "her husband made&nbsp; his feelings about Hamzah clear on his own."&nbsp; I am starting to think KH's choice of Abdullah while easiest as in place in constitution eldest son has right to rule was not the best---but I could be surprised as the years go on.&nbsp; I do know I would NOT want to be KA now.&nbsp; There have already been attempts on his life--so who knows how long he will survive.....and if it will be long enough to change succession to his son or if Hamzah will be King someday.&nbsp; I have a gut feeling Hamzah will inherit that role.

I didn't know there had been attempts on KA's life? When? [/b][/quote]
if i remenber correctly after september 11th, KA said that Al-Qaeda tried to assassinate him and his family. They were on holiday at the time, on they yacht,QR was pregnant with Salma, apparently they got word that a boat filld with explosives was going to be driven into their yacht and killed them all

[papillon]

Originally posted by sommone@Jun 26th, 2004 - 1:15 am
I didn't know there had been attempts on KA's life? When?

I just assume every head of state experiences all kinds of thwarted assassination attempts, especially people like Bush, Arafat, Sharon, Mubarak, and KA. The list of leaders making decisions and doing things that others dislike is virtually endless. It seems to come with the job.

[zento]

Months later, bin Laden is said to have sent terrorists after King Abdullah and his family as they vacationed on a yacht in the Mediterranean off the coast of Greece.
http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:ABpKnSa...lah+yacht&hl=en

[sommone]

Originally posted by papillon+Jun 26th, 2004 - 8:56 pm--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (papillon @ Jun 26th, 2004 - 8:56 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-sommone@Jun 26th, 2004 - 1:15 am
I didn't know there had been attempts on KA's life?&nbsp; When?

I just assume every head of state experiences all kinds of thwarted assassination attempts, especially people like Bush, Arafat, Sharon, Mubarak, and KA. The list of leaders making decisions and doing things that others dislike is virtually endless. It seems to come with the job. [/b][/quote]
You are correct in making that assumption, but I never heard or saw it in print that's why I asked. :flower:

[maryshawn]

Originally posted by sommone+Jun 26th, 2004 - 2:15 am--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (sommone @ Jun 26th, 2004 - 2:15 am)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-maryshawn@Jun 26th, 2004 - 1:25 am
I have read articles from a ways back that Prince Ali was heir apparent after Queen Alia's death.&nbsp; Perhaps it was prompted by KH's grief.&nbsp; Then, Hamzah appeared and KH grew very close to him--thought he was most like him.&nbsp; So many people believe Hamzah was KH's real choice to succeed him as he saw himself in Hamzah.&nbsp; And, yes, I'm sure QN helped cultivate that relationship and edge Ali out.&nbsp; THAT could be the reason for the coolness in the relationship between Noor and Alia's children.&nbsp; It seemed to start out pleasantly enough before Hamzah's birth.&nbsp; I always thought Ali was charismatic and charming--but seemed to drop off the radar screen--perhaps because of his poor behavior.&nbsp; I know Noor says she had nothing to do with succession choices because "her husband made&nbsp; his feelings about Hamzah clear on his own."&nbsp; I am starting to think KH's choice of Abdullah while easiest as in place in constitution eldest son has right to rule was not the best---but I could be surprised as the years go on.&nbsp; I do know I would NOT want to be KA now.&nbsp; There have already been attempts on his life--so who knows how long he will survive.....and if it will be long enough to change succession to his son or if Hamzah will be King someday.&nbsp; I have a gut feeling Hamzah will inherit that role.

I didn't know there had been attempts on KA's life? When? [/b][/quote]
Two years ago, when KA and family were on a yacht in the Mediterranian, I believe, a small boat filled with explosives was seized as it raced right toward their vessel. Their yacht took evasive actions and the small boat was intercepted and blown up before reaching its target. It was believed to be the work of al Quaeda. This was written about in a profile of KA in "Hello" magazine a few months later. Also, the fairly recent attempt to use poisonous chemicals in Amman to kill thousands targeted KA's home, too. I read that in one of the American magazines like Time or Newsweek.

[sommone]

Originally posted by maryshawn+Jun 27th, 2004 - 12:17 am--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (maryshawn @ Jun 27th, 2004 - 12:17 am)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

I didn't know there had been attempts on KA's life? When?

Two years ago, when KA and family were on a yacht in the Mediterranian, I believe, a small boat filled with explosives was seized as it raced right toward their vessel. Their yacht took evasive actions and the small boat was intercepted and blown up before reaching its target. It was believed to be the work of al Quaeda. This was written about in a profile of KA in "Hello" magazine a few months later. Also, the fairly recent attempt to use poisonous chemicals in Amman to kill thousands targeted KA's home, too. I read that in one of the American magazines like Time or Newsweek. [/b][/quote]
As always, thanks for the information.

[maryshawn]

OK, why is the Talaban after Abdullah? After attempt on his life and his family, he is doing what his dad did and using food tasters and being extremely cautious. QR used to say she loved driving the kids to school and that "if you set the rules, you can live a normal life." I bet she isn't doing that anymore and has armed guards wherever she goes--a prudent idea!

[papillon]

Originally Posted by maryshawn

OK, why is the Talaban after Abdullah?

Probably at least in part because he has supported the US.

[Bubbette]

The Taliban is after everyone who doensn't support their brand of Wahabi Islam--they attack Saudis, Pakistanis, Turks-and of course all non-Muslims.

[shelley]

Originally Posted by Bubbette

The Taliban is after everyone who doensn't support their brand of Wahabi Islam--they attack Saudis, Pakistanis, Turks-and of course all non-Muslims.

And who supported them first of all ??? Sorry, this is political I know.

[paloma]

Political but true. In the end, we always get bit in the ass due to policy decisions that seem right at the time.