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Old 07-21-2005, 01:42 PM
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I don't know much about the Jordanian Royal Family, but could anyone tell me why the Jordanian kings don't seem to take several wives at the same time?

I have been reading about Princess Haya's situation and it seems very complicated (and liable to cause many hurt feelings). Does anyone have any idea as to why she would decide to marry a man with at least one other living wife (especially if that isn't her family's custom)?
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Old 07-22-2005, 04:17 AM
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The Jordanian kings don't seem to take several wives at the same time, BUT IT COULD BE THAT THEY HAVE MANY SECRET AFFAIRE.

I think that Princess Haya like a powerful/ rich man with her.
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I don't know much about the Jordanian Royal Family, but could anyone tell me why the Jordanian kings don't seem to take several wives at the same time?

I have been reading about Princess Haya's situation and it seems very complicated (and liable to cause many hurt feelings). Does anyone have any idea as to why she would decide to marry a man with at least one other living wife (especially if that isn't her family's custom)?
I think that the first Jordanian King Abdullah I did have several wives, which was the custom in those daysfor affluential men or leaders. The reason the present and previous King didn't\don't take several wives (simultaneously) is IMO they want to have a semi-western reputation, and Bigomy is forbidden in the western world.
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Old 07-22-2005, 05:31 AM
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The Jordanian kings don't seem to take several wives at the same time, BUT IT COULD BE THAT THEY HAVE MANY SECRET AFFAIRE.
King Abdullah II seems very happy with his wife, I hope he isn't having an affair, have there been any rumours? If yes tell me

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Old 07-22-2005, 11:48 AM
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I think it would be difficult for royals to have affairs with each other, although as we've all learned it's possible for royals to have affairs with non-royals quite easily (Charles & Camilla, Diana & James Hewitt, etc.).

Certainly, Haya as an attractive young woman would probably want to get married, but it seems odd that she would pick this much older man, with at least one wife and children older than Haya. And it appears from this board that the first wife is very popular.
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Old 07-22-2005, 07:33 PM
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Yes, Haya has definitely taken some flak for marrying her husband because his first wife, Hind, is so popular and beloved in the UAE. I, too, have wondered about this because it does not seem to be the custom in Jordan--at least, in present days.
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Old 07-23-2005, 12:38 AM
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I think it would be difficult for royals to have affairs with each other, although as we've all learned it's possible for royals to have affairs with non-royals quite easily (Charles & Camilla, Diana & James Hewitt, etc.).

Certainly, Haya as an attractive young woman would probably want to get married, but it seems odd that she would pick this much older man, with at least one wife and children older than Haya. And it appears from this board that the first wife is very popular.

Hello Iowabelle, welcome to the forums.:) Just wanted to say that none of Shk Mo's children are older than Haya. She is 31, and Mo's oldest son is no older than 24 or 25. He might be younger than that.
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Old 07-28-2005, 04:44 AM
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I dont know why they didnt marry jordanians ....most of the princesses were not jordanians ...let us see ..
princess mona alhusein....british
queen noor .....amrecan/lebanese
queen alia .....palastainian
QUeen rania...palastainian
Queen Dina ...Egeption
princess alia alfaisal....syrian
princess rim ....algrian
princess noor hamzah...iranian mother
princess ghida talal....lebenese
princess areej ghazi....oman
princess feryal mohamed .....palastinian
princess sarvath alhassan....pakistan
princess alia bint alhussein 1st husbent ....iraqi
princess basma bint talal 1st husbent ....iraqi
Princess fairozeh asem......iran
princess magida raad .....british
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princess noor hamzah was and is a Jordanian Princess
Also I thought Alia Faisal was JOrdanian and her family is a powerful Jordanian family. Or could it be that they descend from Syria, much like Palestinians in Jordan do.
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princess noor hamzah was and is a Jordanian Princess
Also I thought Alia Faisal was JOrdanian and her family is a powerful Jordanian family. Or could it be that they descend from Syria, much like Palestinians in Jordan do.
Umm Noor Hamzah is called a Jordanian princess but she's not Originally from Jordan,I think she follows the Hashemmites of Iraq...but now as hashemmites are only in JOrdan she's surely Jordanian.

Alia al Taba3 is Originally from Syria....
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Umm Noor Hamzah is called a Jordanian princess but she's not Originally from Jordan,I think she follows the Hashemmites of Iraq...but now as hashemmites are only in JOrdan she's surely Jordanian.

Alia al Taba3 is Originally from Syria....

that's not true at all, her grandfather , Prince Nayef ,was the half- brother of King Talal, P. Nayef was a son of King Abdullah the 1st, just like Talal , who was KH's father.
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Old 07-30-2005, 12:34 AM
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that's not true at all, her grandfather , Prince Nayef ,was the half- brother of King Talal, P. Nayef was a son of King Abdullah the 1st, just like Talal , who was KH's father.
how come you are saying she comes from Syria or Iraq? can't understand......
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that's not true at all, her grandfather , Prince Nayef ,was the half- brother of King Talal, P. Nayef was a son of King Abdullah the 1st, just like Talal , who was KH's father.
well King Abdullah the first came from al Hijaz and Nayef is King Abdullah's first BROTHER not son...the sons of Al-Sherif Hussien First were Abdullah (Jordan (emirate back then),Faisal (Syria and Iraq) and Nayef who was in Iraq too,So Asem bin nayef is Nayef's Son and Prince Ali bin Nayef's brother who were based in Iraq before the rule by Hashemmites ended....
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Old 07-31-2005, 10:14 AM
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Queen Noor is SYRIAN/american

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I dont know why they didnt marry jordanians ....most of the princesses were not jordanians ...let us see ..
princess mona alhusein....british
queen noor .....amrecan/SYRIAN
queen alia .....palastainian
QUeen rania...palastainian
Queen Dina ...Egeption
princess alia alfaisal....syrian
princess rim ....algrian
princess noor hamzah...iranian mother
princess ghida talal....lebenese
princess areej ghazi....oman
princess feryal mohamed .....palastinian
princess sarvath alhassan....pakistan
princess alia bint alhussein 1st husbent ....iraqi
princess basma bint talal 1st husbent ....iraqi
Princess fairozeh asem......iran
princess magida raad .....british
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She was an American of Syrian and Swedish descent lol! :)
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Old 07-31-2005, 12:42 PM
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Now we can say that one of the marriage customs of the jordanian royal family is that they marry NON-jordanians.
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Now we can say that one of the marriage customs of the jordanian royal family is that they marry NON-jordanians.

lol that's a nice way to think of it...

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LOL Alicky :)

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She was an American of Syrian and Swedish descent lol! :)
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lol that's a nice way to think of it...
That's good--increase the gene pool!
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Old 08-03-2005, 07:53 PM
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One can only surmise, that they deem a Wife to be more than enough for them. Also they may deem that having more than one wife, would be impossible for them to handle, because of the requirements involved in such a marriage.

Surat Al-Mumineen says that it is permissable for a Muslim male to have a maximum of 4 Wives. Provided (and this is a must) that he can treat them equally. If he cannot do so than to have 4 wives, would be forbidden for him. Therefore a Wife would be sufficient.

In addition, In the Hadeeth, in particular the section called the book of Nikah, says that A Muslim Male may be permitted to have an addition wife (maximum 4) provided (this also is a must) that he has the permission of his first Wife or current wife/wives. Without which he cannot take an additional wife. :)

PH married the man that she loves. In certain parts of the Gulf the marriages where a husband has approximately 4 wives isn't practices within the gulf as much as it used to be. Hence, at times if a person has done so, many have judged the person harshly or worse. No offence meant by my comments.:)

Also, according to accounts If and only If Sheikh Mumammad is still married to Sheikha Hind, he wouldn't have been able to have married Princess Haya if his first wife hadn't consented to the marriage. One also knows that at the wedding there was a Sheikh (not a Prince but an Islamic schollar the title is used for both) whom officiated the Nikah contract. If the marriage were illegal by the aforementioned or other factors, Sheikh Muhammad's marriage to Princess Haya wouldn't have been allowed to commence much less be officiated.

I bo no means insult Sheikha Hind or anyone else.:)

No offence is meant by my comments.:)



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I don't know much about the Jordanian Royal Family, but could anyone tell me why the Jordanian kings don't seem to take several wives at the same time?

I have been reading about Princess Haya's situation and it seems very complicated (and liable to cause many hurt feelings). Does anyone have any idea as to why she would decide to marry a man with at least one other living wife (especially if that isn't her family's custom)?

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