Jordanian Royal Family Picture Thread, Part 1 - Page 6

Reina · #**101** 05-10-2005, 10:33 PM

So touching

Reina · #**102** 05-10-2005, 10:34 PM

bellisima

Reina · #**103** 05-10-2005, 10:35 PM

Dynasty....

hilal · #**104** 05-25-2005, 05:40 AM

Today 45 years ago that marries King Hussein and Princess Muna.
1. King Hussein of Jordan and his wife Princess Muna al Hussein, leave their hotel for a lunch appointment with Her Majesty the Queen, at Buckingham Palace.
2. Princess Muna of Jordan visits the Arab Horse Society Summer Show.
3. King Hussein with his Future Wife.

Bubbette · #**105** 05-25-2005, 10:17 AM

Looking at them I would never picture them as a couple.

maryshawn · #**106** 05-25-2005, 06:07 PM

I, too, find them an interesting choice. I know there are all sorts of reasons people cite for the marriage but I think he was looking for someone who was just easy to be with...and, by all accounts, they did have a lot of fun together. And sometimes, I suppose, things really can be that simple.

Reina · #**107** 05-25-2005, 08:23 PM

SOmetimes I wonder what the heck those girls were thinkin'

maryshawn · #**108** 05-27-2005, 11:08 PM

Me, too. I can't imagine Dina was happy when she wasn't allowed to see her daughter for years. Then, Muna thought things were fine till she learned she was being divorced so KH could marry QA. QA by her own accounts was unhappy and troubled in her role as Queen....Rolad Dallas in his biography of KH said she suffered because of KH's fondness for British nannies. Then QN came along and she, too, had a difficult time fitting in and also dealing with the rumors about her and her husband's interest in other women..... If any of them thought it was going to be an idyllic life, they were sorely let down. I think they all had a rough time in one way or another. Being Queen or royalty in any country is not easy because of lack of privacy and gossip and personal issues which have to be worked out largely on one's own because to confide in anyone risks that conversation being repeated and made public. There are many, many "perks" but sometimes the price is just too high?????

Reina · #**109** 05-27-2005, 11:18 PM

You know that journalist (I think you posted the article, it was written in in the 70's after QA's death) that interviewed KH? He came on to her, but she did not return the advances. I really admired her. I really think she had herself together. SHe probably could have been Queen, but yet she immediately adn totally knew that she did not want that.

papillon · #**110** 05-28-2005, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by maryshawn

Being Queen or royalty in any country is not easy because of lack of privacy and gossip and personal issues which have to be worked out largely on one's own because to confide in anyone risks that conversation being repeated and made public. There are many, many "perks" but sometimes the price is just too high?????

I agree with much of this, but I think not all members of the JRF are as lacking in confidantes as QN has claimed she is. Most people need other people in their lives. . .that just seems to be the human condition. But I would imagine they are ver-r-r-r-ry careful about whom they let in, and I bet they put a high value on discretion and loyalty in their personal relationships. They are probably understandably very cautious. Blabbermouths need not apply.

maryshawn · #**111** 05-28-2005, 03:33 PM

I agree totally. KH made the exact same approaches he made to QN and yet this woman was "together" enough to know pursuing anything further with KH--no matter how charming or lost or attentive he seemed at the time--was a bad idea. History does tend to repeat itself and he had a history of not being a faithful or devoted husband. I admired her a lot too for having the common sense and--I don't know what you call it but she wasn't guided by any need to be in the spotlight, have tons of money, have the title of Queen,.....--and so she got on the plane and went home. Very wise woman.

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Originally Posted by Reina

You know that journalist (I think you posted the article, it was written in in the 70's after QA's death) that interviewed KH? He came on to her, but she did not return the advances. I really admired her. I really think she had herself together. SHe probably could have been Queen, but yet she immediately adn totally knew that she did not want that.

maryshawn · #**112** 05-28-2005, 03:38 PM

QN was definitely an "extreme" in this. She said on one of her Larry King appearances she knew how lucky she was to have a circle of friends who'd been her friends since high school and would be there for her till her dying day. But then she talks about how she would never confide in any of them, including her sister, as "they couldn't understand." That's not giving her "friends" nor her sister a lot of credit. Sure, she lived a different life but the fundamental elements of being married to a challenging individual, raising kids and stepkids, dealing with extended families, finding purpose in one's work,......these are all issues I'm sure they could've understood quite easily and perhaps helped her with. QN is definitely a loner and obviously likes it that way.

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Originally Posted by papillon

I agree with much of this, but I think not all members of the JRF are as lacking in confidantes as QN has claimed she is. Most people need other people in their lives. . .that just seems to be the human condition. But I would imagine they are ver-r-r-r-ry careful about whom they let in, and I bet they put a high value on discretion and loyalty in their personal relationships. They are probably understandably very cautious. Blabbermouths need not apply.

Reina · #**113** 05-28-2005, 06:39 PM

Can she not confide in her mom. That is the number one human being I confide in (God being the only deity). But yoyu know soemtimes I feel sorry for her mom. SHe is a long-suffering woman. And you know what else-I cna kind of see the same pattern that is in QN in her mom. Her mom, Doris (?), stayed with Najeeb (?), QN"s dad, even when he treated her bad. It is like she was dependent on him and did not stand up for herself. ASNd so this is the way with QN. Of course KH probably wasn't as bad as NAjeeb. But this goes to show that women need to be confident and sure of themselves so they don't have to depend on abusive men and stay in demeaning situations. I know I have learned this from watching QN and others and slo what my mom and church has taught me. (watching oprah helps too

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Originally Posted by maryshawn

QN was definitely an "extreme" in this. She said on one of her Larry King appearances she knew how lucky she was to have a circle of friends who'd been her friends since high school and would be there for her till her dying day. But then she talks about how she would never confide in any of them, including her sister, as "they couldn't understand." That's not giving her "friends" nor her sister a lot of credit. Sure, she lived a different life but the fundamental elements of being married to a challenging individual, raising kids and stepkids, dealing with extended families, finding purpose in one's work,......these are all issues I'm sure they could've understood quite easily and perhaps helped her with. QN is definitely a loner and obviously likes it that way.

**Humera** · #**114** 05-28-2005, 06:55 PM

I doubt Queen Noor didnt know that King Hussein was the play boy type.
But the thing is, a lot of women are either attracted to men like that or think that they will be the ones to change their man and make him settle down.
Ofcourse the prospect of being a future queen is no less of a motivating factor.
When Noor talks about her late husband now it really does sound like she loved him deeply, whether that had anything to do with his cancer, I dont know.
But there is something called being responsible for your own actions.
If Noor didnt confide in her family and friends than that was her decision, whatever the reason behind it. You can't put up walls around yourself and then be surprised that you're alone. Even friends and family cant force anyone to be forthcoming with their feelings and problems.

Reina · #**115** 05-28-2005, 07:01 PM

I also think that ther is a confidence/emotianal probelm. I think these type of women cater to men who are controlling (it can be sexy, I have had my days when I felt like having a man who was in control, but then again I was only a teen and had a lot of growing up to do. I am only 20 so I still ahve some growing up to do, but at least now I know that I like men my own age. WHew!

) ANyway yeah...these women tend to not have a good relationship with their father, so in consequence they marry someone who is like their father, whom they still seek to gain acceptance and love from

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Originally Posted by ~*~Humera~*~

I doubt Queen Noor didnt know that King Hussein was the play boy type.
But the thing is, a lot of women are either attracted to men like that or think that they will be the ones to change their man and make him settle down.
Ofcourse the prospect of being a future queen is no less of a motivating factor.
When Noor talks about her late husband now it really does sound like she loved him deeply, whether that had anything to do with his cancer, I dont know.
But there is something called being responsible for your own actions.
If Noor didnt confide in her family and friends than that was her decision, whatever the reason behind it. You can't put up walls around yourself and then be surprised that you're alone. Even friends and family cant force anyone to be forthcoming with their feelings and problems.

Genevieve · #**116** 05-29-2005, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by maryshawn

QN was definitely an "extreme" in this. She said on one of her Larry King appearances she knew how lucky she was to have a circle of friends who'd been her friends since high school and would be there for her till her dying day. But then she talks about how she would never confide in any of them, including her sister, as "they couldn't understand." That's not giving her "friends" nor her sister a lot of credit. Sure, she lived a different life but the fundamental elements of being married to a challenging individual, raising kids and stepkids, dealing with extended families, finding purpose in one's work,......these are all issues I'm sure they could've understood quite easily and perhaps helped her with. QN is definitely a loner and obviously likes it that way.

This seems to be a rather contradictory statement by Noor. She's "lucky" to have had friends who have been at her side for more than 20 years but yet she can't really trust them with her innermost thoughts, concerns, or feelings. So then why does she have these friends?

While Noor is/was in a unique position as Queen, a role that most people would be hard pressed to really understand or identify with, a good friend doesn't have to understand your position 100% to support you. She just has to listen to your concerns, problems, fears, and feelings.

My friends will never know 100% what it is like to be me, or me to be them. But we still turn to each other when we are each frustrated, concerned, scared or whatever.

It must be lonely to isolate yourself as much as Noor has done. It is certainly not how I'd like to live my life.

cute_girl · #**117** 05-29-2005, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Reina

You know that journalist (I think you posted the article, it was written in in the 70's after QA's death) that interviewed KH? He came on to her, but she did not return the advances. I really admired her. I really think she had herself together. SHe probably could have been Queen, but yet she immediately adn totally knew that she did not want that.

who's this story about?muna?

Reina · #**118** 05-29-2005, 04:30 PM

No. It is an interview with KH. It was a little after QA died too. It was posted somewhere in this subforum though.

cute_girl · #**119** 05-29-2005, 05:04 PM

I mean who's SHE referring to?

Reina · #**120** 05-29-2005, 05:11 PM

Well she had an interview with KH so it was about alot of things. The journalist said in her article that after teh interview KH flirted with her and invited her to stay in Jordan. But she did not. She had sense. Therefore I am not talking about any of KH's wives.