Jordanian Royal Family Picture Thread, Part 1

[tipper]

with P Alia in 1948- the 1 in the previous message is QN and P Servath at Q Juliana in 03.

[Reina]

Aaahh...yes...I'll be doing a paper on that.

Originally Posted by tipper

well, no, 'cos of " Black September".

[tipper]

Originally Posted by tipper

with P Alia in 1948- the 1 in the previous message is QN and P Servath at Q Juliana in 03.

I meant 1958- the 1st is of QN and Alia al Feisal, in 2003.

[Reina]

wasn't the six day war b/f 1970, like 69 or 67

[elizahawthorne]

Originally Posted by tipper

well, no, 'cos of " Black September".

Black September? What's that?

-Eliza

[Reina]

Wait sorry I got black spetember mixed up with the six dat war. I think black spetember was when KH had to defeat some palestinian insurgents who were trying to take over Jordan. I think...

[tipper]

Originally Posted by Reina

Wait sorry I got black spetember mixed up with the six dat war. I think black spetember was when KH had to defeat some palestinian insurgents who were trying to take over Jordan. I think...

yes, Arafat and Nasser wanted to take over Jordan, had KH killed, and Jordan would have become part of Palestine, they tried to have KH killed, but the attempt failed, - KH called bedouins , who were so loyal to him and JRF, and PAL andEgyptian armies were defeated, many PAL ppl were killed, I believe thousands of them, ppl who were from Palestine, but living in Jordan, well, that's what i remember, Sept 1970.

[tipper]

Originally Posted by Reina

wasn't the six day war b/f 1970, like 69 or 67

no, something else happened in 1967, "the 6 days war" against Israel, Jordan was an Egypt and Palestine ally, but Nasser betrayed KH, or something like that, they were defeated by Israel, from that moment KH was an enemy to both Nasser and Arafat-

[Reina]

Hussein was a strong man, warrior, and king. Also the bedouins are definitely the one's to call on when the country is in trouble. They will fight to the death. Just don't betray them.

Originally Posted by tipper

yes, Arafat and Nasser wanted to take over Jordan, had KH killed, and Jordan would have become part of Palestine, they tried to have KH killed, but the attempt failed, - KH called bedouins , who were so loyal to him and JRF, and PAL andEgyptian armies were defeated, many PAL ppl were killed, I believe thousands of them, ppl who were from Palestine, but living in Jordan, well, that's what i remember, Sept 1970.

[tipper]

I found them in a new Spanish site, QA and KH with Hayah just born, and QA, KH and all KH's kids, don't know the date, though. Hope u'll enjoy them.:) :)

[tipper]

Originally Posted by tipper

I found them in a new Spanish site, QA and KH with Hayah just born, and QA, KH and all KH's kids, don't know the date, though. Hope u'll enjoy them.:) :)

also 1 of QA holding baby Hayah and QN holding baby Hussein.

[tipper]

I love pix i've never seen be4e.

[cute_girl]

Originally Posted by tipper

yes, Arafat and Nasser wanted to take over Jordan, had KH killed, and Jordan would have become part of Palestine, they tried to have KH killed, but the attempt failed, - KH called bedouins , who were so loyal to him and JRF, and PAL andEgyptian armies were defeated, many PAL ppl were killed, I believe thousands of them, ppl who were from Palestine, but living in Jordan, well, that's what i remember, Sept 1970.

werent Arafat and KH friends????????I always thought arabs are united and whats this black sepetember got to do with muna that she had to leave?

[tipper]

Originally Posted by cute_girl

werent Arafat and KH friends????????I always thought arabs are united and whats this black sepetember got to do with muna that she had to leave?

they were enemies at the time, Muna and kids had to leave the country as there was a civil war in Jordan.

[shelley]

Originally Posted by tipper

this a pic taken at KH's funeral, that's his horse and his officers, or b/gds, they did something to the horse, they use to do when who owns and rides the horse has just died.... hope u got it, I'll check it in the caption.:) :)

The horse walks in the funeral cortege with boots put backwards through the stirrups. Its an old military tradition - rather a beautiful and moving one :(

[shelley]

Originally Posted by tipper

yes, Arafat and Nasser wanted to take over Jordan, had KH killed, and Jordan would have become part of Palestine, they tried to have KH killed, but the attempt failed, - KH called bedouins , who were so loyal to him and JRF, and PAL andEgyptian armies were defeated, many PAL ppl were killed, I believe thousands of them, ppl who were from Palestine, but living in Jordan, well, that's what i remember, Sept 1970.

I arrived in Jordan shortly after this period and fully expected to see a war torn town, but actually, there was not so much destruction visiable to the layman. I asked ( foreigners, who were there before, during and after the crisis) and about the 'thousands' who were killed and was told that it was more in the hundreds , and were not only Palestinians but that there were all sorts of anarchists and terrorists of many nationalities : German Baader Meinhof, Japanese Red Army and IRA . They also said that there were Palestinians in the Jordanian army who fought side by side with their Jordanian colleagues because it was a fight of right against wrong, extreme against moderate, not so much Jordanian/Palestinian.

[shelley]

Originally Posted by Reina

Why did PMuna have to escape to London? was it cuz QA arrived on the scene?

I do not know the reason why Princess Muna left Jordan during this period, but yes, she, and her children, and Princess Firyal ( then the wife of Prince Mohammed ) and her children, and a very few other women of the JRF left the country for the duration of the troubles, but I believe most of them stayed. These last included the Queen Mother Zein, Princess Basma, Princess Sarvath, and various aunts and cousins. My source was keen to point out that Princess Majda, the Swedish wife of Prince Raad stayed as well. It is perhaps no coincidence that both Princess Muna and Princess Firyal's marriages came to an end shortly afterwards, which leads me to think that their absence was their own choice and not one imposed on them by their husbands, and perhaps not well regarded ?

[Reina]

You've got a really good point. If I was in that situation I would stay by my man through thick and thin. Sure I would probably send the kids away, but not too far-at least not as far as London. WHen I look at that pic of PMuna in London dressed to the nines, I always shake my head. But it teaches me to always stay by my man-no matter what.

Are there any pics of Princess Majda?

Originally Posted by shelley

I do not know the reason why Princess Muna left Jordan during this period, but yes, she, and her children, and Princess Firyal ( then the wife of Prince Mohammed ) and her children, and a very few other women of the JRF left the country for the duration of the troubles, but I believe most of them stayed. These last included the Queen Mother Zein, Princess Basma, Princess Sarvath, and various aunts and cousins. My source was keen to point out that Princess Majda, the Swedish wife of Prince Raad stayed as well. It is perhaps no coincidence that both Princess Muna and Princess Firyal's marriages came to an end shortly afterwards, which leads me to think that their absence was their own choice and not one imposed on them by their husbands, and perhaps not well regarded ?

[tipper]

Originally Posted by tipper

u're welcome.:) :) :)

houri, is P Hayah the bridesmaid by Hashim, in the Feisal wed pic ? who are the other bridesmaids, where's Ali ? and Zein and Aisha ? when did Feisal got married ? thanx.