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Old 09-06-2005, 11:26 PM
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With QN and QA, it kind of seems KH, possibly in a desire to please them--and, again, not thinking things through--lavished lots of affection on their first born sons--Ali and Hamzah. Ali was named CP for a very short while and we all know what happened with Hamzah. While I believe QN would've lobbied for Hamzah, I don't think QA did for Ali, simply for the reasons you cite. By the time she died, she had had it with life in the royal bubble and spoke to friends about wanting to run away and live in London. I'd always thought she was loved by most people but she did have enemies--as she told Margaret Trudeau--and it was making her "increasingly nervous"--not only about people's feelings toward her but her husband's thoughts. She was pleased she had started building the Princess Haya Centre but said to Mrs. Trudeau "Hussein will be so angry." It's kind of a sad tale actually in so many ways. But she always put on a good face no matter what--which is one of the reasons I respect her so.
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I don't think of King Hussein as naive at all. He would have been a very dithering, unaware and gullible person to have something like his successor be chosen by a wife for which he showed little regard. In order for those sort of machinations to take place, he would have had to have been very unsure, shilly-shally and indecisive, but by all accounts he was a decisive, firm, commanding and authoritative person. I don't think anyone could have pulled a major fast one like this over him (unless we're talking about the sort of calculations that could have occured when he was consumed by cancer in his final days).

Besides, Alia doesn't fit the profile of the manipulator, it was her biggest wish to go off and live anonymously with her husband and children, to have a happy home life. She found it so difficult to cope with her husband being King, I don't think she, for her sake or her son's, would have been lobbying overtime to secure Ali as the next king.
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Old 09-09-2005, 04:41 PM
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Queen Noor is Half Lebanese/Syrian and Swedish. Her mother was Sweedish and US born. Her Father was Arab.
her father was not fully Arab, his father married a US woman, from Texas, he was born in US, only his grandparents were from Syria.
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Old 09-09-2005, 04:47 PM
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yes for sure!thats not what i mean - you dont get it!
do you really believe all what journalists write?they write so much... thats why im asking and make questioning...
dont believe in all thats written...
why arent you able to discuss?!

I`m able to discuss, it depends on the person I`m talking to, so what, if 1 does not believe media, what should w1 do, ask infos to u ? do u think u know more than a journalist ?
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Old 09-09-2005, 04:49 PM
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I thought she was half Arab? Weren't Najeeb's parents both Syrian? And she does physically look more American, more western. But it depends on what you use to define what makes someone "American" and "Arab," to me it's not appearances. :)
not at all, u can find QN`s family tree on the Net.
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Old 09-09-2005, 08:19 PM
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Old 09-10-2005, 07:23 AM
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I`m able to discuss, it depends on the person I`m talking to, so what, if 1 does not believe media, what should w1 do, ask infos to u ? do u think u know more than a journalist ?
no i dont think so.but i dont believe in all that journalists write.
thats it.and thats why i ask.
everybody knows that journalists often write much stupid things that arent true...
so you dont have to discuss with me.when im not the right person for you.but i can ask when i want for!
so i hope its okay now...

and on princess hayas webside are pictures with queen noor - and her link to the homepage.
so ....
hate is such a big word... dont think that theres hate between them.and trouble is not the same.
but - who knows?!
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Old 09-10-2005, 09:07 AM
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no i dont think so.but i dont believe in all that journalists write.
thats it.and thats why i ask.
everybody knows that journalists often write much stupid things that arent true...
so you dont have to discuss with me.when im not the right person for you.but i can ask when i want for!
so i hope its okay now...

and on princess hayas webside are pictures with queen noor - and her link to the homepage.
so ....
hate is such a big word... dont think that theres hate between them.and trouble is not the same.
but - who knows?!

my dear, as u`re only 18, it`s obvious u repeat what u have heard so many times/ well, there` s a good, serious kind of journalism, too....if u read gossip mags, u must only believe half of it, if u are reading serious mags, and that interview to Hayah was on " CHI", a quite serious mag, full of gossips, but they check be4e writing something, it` not the Sun.... just ask around, they have their own website, maybe I still have the interview, but having followed JRF since 1996, and having many Jordanian friends, u can be sure I check about everything I post here, be4e posting it, I just hate silly, mean rumours....if I`m in this Forum is only `cos I know somethings, but not everything.... as u know, JRF are so secretive about their own life, though back in `99 and in `2000, they all were more outspoiken, many things I heard from a deceaded Forum, I still have the files, the members were Jordanians, if u like, I can send u the files, they knew things about JRF we could not know as we don`t live there/ hate? who spoke about hate, Hayah did not, but she called QN/ my father`s widow/ and did not add anything more, talking alot about her late mum and QR/ an angel sent to earth/ as she herself said in her int. The pix, all taken when KH was alive to please their father, I`m talking about Ali, too/ so, let` not discuss about it, if Ali and Hayah don` tlove QN, I understand them, though QN is in my heart....
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my dear, as u`re only 18,
Did you accidentally mean me?
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my dear, as u`re only 18, it`s obvious u repeat what u have heard so many times/ well, there` s a good, serious kind of journalism, too....if u read gossip mags, u must only believe half of it, if u are reading serious mags, and that interview to Hayah was on " CHI", a quite serious mag, full of gossips, but they check be4e writing something, it` not the Sun.... just ask around, they have their own website, maybe I still have the interview, but having followed JRF since 1996, and having many Jordanian friends, u can be sure I check about everything I post here, be4e posting it, I just hate silly, mean rumours....if I`m in this Forum is only `cos I know somethings, but not everything.... as u know, JRF are so secretive about their own life, though back in `99 and in `2000, they all were more outspoiken, many things I heard from a deceaded Forum, I still have the files, the members were Jordanians, if u like, I can send u the files, they knew things about JRF we could not know as we don`t live there/ hate? who spoke about hate, Hayah did not, but she called QN/ my father`s widow/ and did not add anything more, talking alot about her late mum and QR/ an angel sent to earth/ as she herself said in her int. The pix, all taken when KH was alive to please their father, I`m talking about Ali, too/ so, let` not discuss about it, if Ali and Hayah don` tlove QN, I understand them, though QN is in my heart....
Can U send me the files please :o :p :o
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Old 09-11-2005, 06:36 AM
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Did you accidentally mean me?

NO!!!!! why u ? I was having a kind of argument with closetoheaven, nothing serious, though, just 2 diff points of views, I hope she`ll respect mine as I`ll surely do the same.
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Old 09-11-2005, 06:40 AM
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Can U send me the files please :o :p :o

sure, my pleasure, very very interesting, but cab u send me a message with your email addy, plz ? PS/ mind u, these ppl, but only a few of them ,were very hostile to JRF, though not to KH, mostly to Ali, KA and QR, they liked Hamzah, QN, I was startled as many did not know who Hayah was...... they really hated QR, Ali and KA. I tried to defend them, they did attack me.
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sure, my pleasure, very very interesting, but cab u send me a message with your email addy, plz ? PS/ mind u, these ppl, but only a few of them ,were very hostile to JRF, though not to KH, mostly to Ali, KA and QR, they liked Hamzah, QN, I was startled as many did not know who Hayah was...... they really hated QR, Ali and KA. I tried to defend them, they did attack me.
I'd like these files too

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Old 09-11-2005, 10:44 AM
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I'd like these files too

-Eliza

sure, Eliza, I`m in London, now, but will be back in 3 days, I`ll soon send u the Files as I get back home.
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Old 09-11-2005, 10:50 AM
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her hair is lighten.
but she has the beauty of an arab.
that doesnt mean non arabs arent beauty.
but its a special beauty and she has it.
an arab must not have dark hair and skin to be arab.
there are enough with lighten hair.
so whats so western on her?

her hair are light, her eyes are green, just like Iman`s, Hamzah`s and Hashim`s/ the only thing about her who could be Arab was her nose, her father was darker than her, but she` s very very fair, just like Raiyah, and very tall, too, well, her mum is from Sweden, her mum`s ancestors all came from Scotland and England, but her parents emigrated to US.
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