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Old 12-23-2009, 08:06 AM
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I don't remember if any of these photos were already posted but it's worth of been seen- there are photos of young Emanuele with his mother and with his grandfather king Umberto.
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As you can see from this old picture, Emanuele F. is not new to the stage.
At 20 years of age he was a drummer in a rock band called "The Aristorock", made up of youngsters of noble stock, including a close realtive of the Aga Khan. They also released a disc, whose cover was designed by David Bowie. (source: Di Più)

Perhaps our Count has some anectodes to share...?

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and who was Ferdinando Duc de Gênes?
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Old 01-19-2011, 06:55 PM
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There were two Princes named Ferdinando and Dukes of Genova (in French Gênes):
the first one was Prince Ferdinando Albert of Savoy, second son of King Carlo Alberto of Sardinia and of Queen Maria Teresa, and also younger brother of King Vittorio Emanuele II of Italy; he was born in 1822 and died in 1855. He was married to Princess Elisabeth of Saxony, and they had two children, Margherita (1851-1926; later Queen of Italy as wife of her cousin Umberto I) and Tommaso, 2nd Duke of Genova (1854-1931).

The second one was his grandson Prince Ferdinando Umberto, eldest son of Prince Tommaso and his wife Princess Isabella, née Princess of Bavaria; he was born in 1884 and died in 1963; he married in 1938 to Countess Maria Luisa Alliaga Gandolfi, but they had no children. He was known as Prince of Udine from his birth to his father's death, then as 3rd Duke of Genova; he was succeeded by his younger brother Filiberto.
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...I have read somewhere that the counts, dukes of savoy and the kings of sardinia and later, the italian kings (with a few exceptions along the way) were seen as "petty-minded princes with the politics of plain opportunism" !!!.
The princes need not be considered "petty-minded" but rather quite astute in their goal to further dynastic ambitions. It worked!
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The third Duke of Aosta:

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A Square of Reggio Emilia has still the name of King Victor-Emanuel II :

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Old 03-31-2012, 11:56 AM
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In Italy many squares and streets are dedicated to King Vittorio E. II, after all he was the one to unify the country. It's a historical matter, nothing to do with the mixed feelings the Italians feel for the ex Royal Family.
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There are places where they try to change the names of the squares because linked with the Royal Family.
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Old 04-02-2012, 11:24 AM
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I never heard of squares or streets dedicated to either Vittorio E. III or King Umberto II, but Vittorio E. II was the one who made Italy as a country, along with Mazzini, Garibaldi, a.s.o. Also there still are places and buildings dedicated to Queen Margherita and Queen Helena in Italy. There's also a city in Apulia named Margherita di Savoia.

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I think there is a region in Italy called Umberia dedicated to King Umberto??and a square in torino dedicated to Emanuel filiberto.
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The region is Umbria, but its name comes from the Umbri tribe, who lived there from 9th to 1st century BC until they were absorbed by the expansion of the Romans.
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Please,Accept my apology MAfan for misuse of thanks button as I were thinking the post will be sent to the thread.
I were not telling a fact about the region Umbria but I asked If the name is dedicated to king Umberto or not.
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I think there is a region in Italy called Umberia dedicated to King Umberto??and a square in torino dedicated to Emanuel filiberto.
Yes, but the square is dedicated to Prince E. Filiberto of Savoy, the 2nd Duke of Aosta, i.e. Duke Amedeo of Aosta' grandfather.
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I never heard of squares or streets dedicated to either Vittorio E. III or King Umberto II, but Vittorio E. II was the one who made Italy as a country, along with Mazzini, Garibaldi, a.s.o. Also there still are places and buildings dedicated to Queen Margherita and Queen Helena in Italy. There's also a city in Apulia named Margherita di Savoia.

Sito Ufficiale del Comune di Margherita di Savoia
There are also the towns of:
- Jolanda di Savoia (named after princess Jolanda) http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jolanda_di_Savoia_(Italia)

- Umbertide (named after Umberto I) Umbertide - Wikipedia

- Sabaudia (named after the Royal family) Sabaudia - Wikipedia
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oh yes i know the story......whilst she was trying to hide a cigarette from her father, her dress caught fire and she died as a result from her burns !!. however the son.....the future king umberto I went on to marry his first cousin margarita of genoa !!

btw...... her widowed mother the duchess of genoa married a non royal and her brother in law the king married one "la rosina" and whose dau vittoria had married two sons of marchese giovanni sinola and his wife isabella grimaldi.......perhaps this lady is related to the princely family of monaco ?
The Duchess of Genoa (Elisabeth of Saxony) was defined by Cavour "the most superb beauty of the north." She was considered very beautiful with blond hair and blue hair.

She brought a wave of innovation and joy to the rigid Savoyard court. She forced her brother-in-law to participate and The Duke of Genoa to dance. Most source said the ducal couple's marriage was unhappy.

After the Duke of Genoa died, she wanted to marry her brother-in-law but he did not want to marry her. So, on an October 1856 night, she married Niccolò, an obscure military. The king was very angry and decided to exile both of them. Only the next year they can return, after Tsarina Alexandra and King John of Saxony during a visit asked him to forgive the duchess. He made Niccolò "Marchese of Rapallo."

When she returned, she realized she had committed a mistake, marrying Niccolò. So, she dedicated her time to raise her children. The duchess treated Niccolò badly, for example asking him to leave the room when she invited the king or other people. Nobody understood why she married him.

Niccolò had lost everything after the marriage, his military position and the respect of people. He finally committed suicide.
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Pope Francis beatified Queen Maria Cristina di Savoia!

Both Bourbons and Savoias are extremely happy!

Papa Francesco: «La Regina di Napoli fece un miracolo»
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The Pope has not yet beatified Queen Maria Cristina; he has only authorised a decree which recognises that a miracle has happened due to her intercession; this is just one step in the process of beatification of someone.

Here is the press release of the Holy See (in Italian):
http://attualita.vatican.va/sala-sta...ews/30921.html
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The Pope has not yet beatified Queen Maria Cristina; he has only authorised a decree which recognises that a miracle has happened due to her intercession; this is just one step in the process of beatification of someone.

Here is the press release of the Holy See (in Italian):
http://attualita.vatican.va/sala-sta...ews/30921.html
It´s pratically the same thing. All headlines in the press state she will be certainly beatified.
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