 |
|
12-23-2009, 07:06 AM
|
 |
Nobility
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Szczecin, Poland
Posts: 420
|
|
Olycom - News
I don't remember if any of these photos were already posted but it's worth of been seen- there are photos of young Emanuele with his mother and with his grandfather king Umberto.
__________________
|
01-13-2010, 03:01 AM
|
 |
Heir Apparent
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Somewhere in the middle of the River Po Valley, Italy
Posts: 3,506
|
|
As you can see from this old picture, Emanuele F. is not new to the stage.
At 20 years of age he was a drummer in a rock band called "The Aristorock", made up of youngsters of noble stock, including a close realtive of the Aga Khan. They also released a disc, whose cover was designed by David Bowie. (source: Di Più)
Perhaps our Count has some anectodes to share...? 
The Little Drummer Boy (I'm saying this in a affectionate way  )
__________________
We must be open-minded, but not so... 'open' to let our brains drop off.
Ciao Sic. We'll be missing you.
|
01-19-2011, 04:15 PM
|
|
Courtier
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: not far from Zurich, Switzerland
Posts: 651
|
|
|
and who was Ferdinando Duc de Gênes?
__________________
|
01-19-2011, 05:55 PM
|
 |
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: N/A, Italy
Posts: 3,536
|
|
|
There were two Princes named Ferdinando and Dukes of Genova (in French Gênes):
the first one was Prince Ferdinando Albert of Savoy, second son of King Carlo Alberto of Sardinia and of Queen Maria Teresa, and also younger brother of King Vittorio Emanuele II of Italy; he was born in 1822 and died in 1855. He was married to Princess Elisabeth of Saxony, and they had two children, Margherita (1851-1926; later Queen of Italy as wife of her cousin Umberto I) and Tommaso, 2nd Duke of Genova (1854-1931).
The second one was his grandson Prince Ferdinando Umberto, eldest son of Prince Tommaso and his wife Princess Isabella, née Princess of Bavaria; he was born in 1884 and died in 1963; he married in 1938 to Countess Maria Luisa Alliaga Gandolfi, but they had no children. He was known as Prince of Udine from his birth to his father's death, then as 3rd Duke of Genova; he was succeeded by his younger brother Filiberto.
__________________
"What will live in history is the good work done by the individual and that has nothing to do with rank or title ... I never thought I would be known only as your mother. You're so well known now and no one knows about me, and I don't want them to."
|
04-10-2011, 02:45 PM
|
|
Newbie
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Italy and, United States
Posts: 6
|
|
|
Political Opportunism
Quote:
Originally Posted by jonnydep
well this king, seems to be a colourful man. i would say he was a opportunist forever changing sides to suit himself, his own ambitions and for his own advancement. he certainly lived by the adivce of his ancestor, the founder of the house of savoy, count umberto, who on his deathbed in c1056, is said to have uttered the following- " NEVER ALLY YOURSELF COMPLETELY TO ONE SIDE, ONE FACTION OR ONE POLICY"
this is quite true concerning this king, dont you think ?
yes i have read somewhere that the counts, dukes of savoy and the kings of sardinia and later, the italian kings (with a few exceptions along the way) were seen as "petty-minded princes with the politics of plain opportunism" !!!.
|
The princes need not be considered "petty-minded" but rather quite astute in their goal to further dynastic ambitions. It worked!
__________________
|
03-06-2012, 06:33 AM
|
|
Royal Highness
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: somewhere in Italy, Italy
Posts: 1,671
|
|
|
__________________
|
03-09-2012, 02:03 PM
|
|
Royal Highness
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: somewhere in Italy, Italy
Posts: 1,671
|
|
|
__________________
|
03-29-2012, 01:44 AM
|
|
Royal Highness
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: somewhere in Italy, Italy
Posts: 1,671
|
|
A Square of Reggio Emilia has still the name of King Victor-Emanuel II :
U.M.I. - Unione Monarchica Italiana - News
__________________
|
03-31-2012, 11:56 AM
|
|
Heir Apparent
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Somewhere in the middle of the River Po Valley, Italy
Posts: 3,506
|
|
 In Italy many squares and streets are dedicated to King Vittorio E. II, after all he was the one to unify the country. It's a historical matter, nothing to do with the mixed feelings the Italians feel for the ex Royal Family.
__________________
We must be open-minded, but not so... 'open' to let our brains drop off.
Ciao Sic. We'll be missing you.
|
04-01-2012, 01:20 PM
|
|
Royal Highness
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: somewhere in Italy, Italy
Posts: 1,671
|
|
|
There are places where they try to change the names of the squares because linked with the Royal Family.
__________________
|
04-02-2012, 11:24 AM
|
|
Heir Apparent
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Somewhere in the middle of the River Po Valley, Italy
Posts: 3,506
|
|
I never heard of squares or streets dedicated to either Vittorio E. III or King Umberto II, but Vittorio E. II was the one who made Italy as a country, along with Mazzini, Garibaldi, a.s.o. Also there still are places and buildings dedicated to Queen Margherita and Queen Helena in Italy. There's also a city in Apulia named Margherita di Savoia.
Sito Ufficiale del Comune di Margherita di Savoia
__________________
We must be open-minded, but not so... 'open' to let our brains drop off.
Ciao Sic. We'll be missing you.
|
04-02-2012, 12:16 PM
|
 |
Aristocracy
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: shebeen, Egypt
Posts: 237
|
|
|
I think there is a region in Italy called Umberia dedicated to King Umberto??and a square in torino dedicated to Emanuel filiberto.
__________________
To die for something is better than to live for nothing.
|
04-02-2012, 04:04 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: N/A, Italy
Posts: 3,536
|
|
The region is Umbria, but its name comes from the Umbri tribe, who lived there from 9th to 1st century BC until they were absorbed by the expansion of the Romans.
__________________
"What will live in history is the good work done by the individual and that has nothing to do with rank or title ... I never thought I would be known only as your mother. You're so well known now and no one knows about me, and I don't want them to."
|
04-03-2012, 09:33 AM
|
|
Aristocracy
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: shebeen, Egypt
Posts: 237
|
|
|
Please,Accept my apology MAfan for misuse of thanks button as I were thinking the post will be sent to the thread.
I were not telling a fact about the region Umbria but I asked If the name is dedicated to king Umberto or not.
__________________
To die for something is better than to live for nothing.
|
04-03-2012, 12:55 PM
|
|
Heir Apparent
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Somewhere in the middle of the River Po Valley, Italy
Posts: 3,506
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by asma
I think there is a region in Italy called Umberia dedicated to King Umberto??and a square in torino dedicated to Emanuel filiberto.
|
Yes, but the square is dedicated to Prince E. Filiberto of Savoy, the 2nd Duke of Aosta, i.e. Duke Amedeo of Aosta' grandfather.
__________________
We must be open-minded, but not so... 'open' to let our brains drop off.
Ciao Sic. We'll be missing you.
|
|
|
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
|
|
|
| Thread Tools |
Search this Thread |
|
|
|
| Display Modes |
 Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
Recent Discussions |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Additional Links |
|
|
|
Chevy Camaro Forum
Ford Mustang Forum
Jeep Wrangler Forum
Volkswagen Touareg Forum
Land Rover Defender Forum
