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Old 06-17-2006, 11:48 AM
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Then maybe is time he, and his ego, step aside and let Filiberto and Clotilde take over the responsibility of the headship of the family clan. Victor Emanuel is not helping the healing process between the House of Savoy and the people of Italy that his family once ruled upon.
His ego is bigger that his job.
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How many people would consider EF and Clotilde responsible enough for the "job", though? The fact that she's an actress who went down the aisle while six months pregnant is not in her favor. That he seems just as trashy, if not as violent, as his father doesn't work in his favor, either. All this nonsense surrounding this branch of the family only makes the Aostas, with Amedeo's two out-of-wedlock children, look more respectable by comparison. Splitting the monarchists isn't going to help the Savoias at all, but I can't see too many monarchists lining up to pledge their continued allegiance to VE or EF.
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How many people would consider EF and Clotilde responsible enough for the "job", though? The fact that she's an actress who went down the aisle while six months pregnant is not in her favor. That he seems just as trashy, if not as violent, as his father doesn't work in his favor, either. All this nonsense surrounding this branch of the family only makes the Aostas, with Amedeo's two out-of-wedlock children, look more respectable by comparison. Splitting the monarchists isn't going to help the Savoias at all, but I can't see too many monarchists lining up to pledge their continued allegiance to VE or EF.

Do you think Amedeo, with two out of wedlock children ,is more respectable than EF and clotide? At least their daughter was born in a wedlock.
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Do you think Amedeo, with two out of wedlock children ,is more respectable than EF and clotide? At least their daughter was born in a wedlock.
I never said Amedeo himself was more respectable. I said his branch of the family is more respectable. His children are more than capable of restoring the lost sheen of respectability to the Savoias. Aimone is (eternally, it seems) engaged to Princess Olga of Greece. His two sisters are settled in marriages with lots of kids. If anyone's to take over the headship, let it be Aimone. He, as far as we all know, has no out-of-wedlock children, criminal friends, or fondness for hookers.
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If that was bad wait until you see what is out on the news wires today. I'm afraid his royal cousin from Bulgaria is going to be dragged into this mess. These are terrible news for both Royal Houses!

VITTORIO EMANUELE: FORMER BULGARIA PM SUSPECTED OF CORRUPTION
(AGI) - Potenza, Italy, June 17 - The Potenza investigation into the prostitution and video-poker ring has also involved the former prime minister of Bulgaria, who is one of Vittorio Emanuele's cousins. The former prime minister is being investigated for corruption. According to magistrates, Simeone of Bulgaria was involved in a related affair to do with selling buildings for 200 million euro. (AGI) -
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I read EF is investigated too.

http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2006/0...150562923.html
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What a mess, Danielane! How many people is Victor Manuel going to drag down with him!?! Even when they had nothing to do with the scandal, it will grow out of proportion and follow everyone forever. All the work Simeon has been doing in favor of a positive view of his family will now be ruined when his political opponents take these news back to Bulgaria and bring them up everywhere.
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Somehow I'm staring to see the House of Savoy's arch-rival House of Two-Sicilies (Borbone-Napoles) as the one having the last laugh in all this.
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Somehow I'm staring to see the House of Savoy's arch-rival House of Two-Sicilies (Borbone-Napoles) as the one having the last laugh in all this.
I don't think any royals would be laughing when the royal "mystique" is severely tarnished in this manner.
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http://www.corriere.it/Media/Foto/20...8/giannell.gif
Drawing from Corriere regarding prince Vittorio Emmanuele
Il Re probo= The Fair King

http://www.corriere.it/Media/Foto/20.../giannelli.jpg
another cartoon-the title "Avanti Savoia" means " Forward Savoya"

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http://www.repubblica.it/2006/06/sez...portavoce.html
According to article from Repubbblica the prince didnt'sleep to much during his first night in jail at Potenza, he was even a bit ijured because of fall from high bed.
Until now he was visited by his lawyers which are thinking how to take him off the prison.
There are discrepancies about his health state- according to his son The prince Vittorio is a very sick man but his general check-up realised showed something different. Also his spirit is high- during conversation with representatives from party Forza Italia he even tried to joke.
However he was upset by the fact that his belt was taken and had to use plastic bags for his trousers
Until now his son wasn't seen at Potenza, he's supposed to be still at Paris (until tuesday family wont' be allowed to see him).
Another a bit funny and strange information (seeing circumstances), one of prince Vittorio Emmanuele 's sister- princessa Maria Gabriella described him as "credulone" it means credulous...
The same sister or second one said that he trusts "the last person which closes the door" (it means he's easy to be manipulated).
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On my way out of the Forum I just found a more detailed news link from Bulgaria that has new information: Italian Scandal with Bulgarian Trace

I'll be tonight to read more news.
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Wow, he was caught in the act!
Has his sister, Princess Gabriela of Savoy, been interviewed on Italian TV about her reaction? Last time I heard of her was around two or three Point de Vue issues ago.
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Wow, he was caught in the act!
Has his sister, Princess Gabriela of Savoy, been interviewed on Italian TV about her reaction? Last time I heard of her was around two or three Point de Vue issues ago.
Hello Toledo
Here's link for interview with one of the prince's sisters- hers opinion about brother isn't too positive I would say...


http://www.corriere.it/Primo_Piano/C...umagalli.shtml
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Here's link for interview with one of the prince's sisters-
Thanks, you might be interested in another thread in Royal Forums that mentions the tense relationship between Princess Maria Gabriella and her hot-headed brother. I can't recall which thread but is about the ladies in the life of the Shah of Iran. Princess Maria Gabriela was prevented from getting married to him (thus she and not Farah would have become Empress of Iran) because of her brother's interference. Seems there is no love lost between the two siblings for quite some decades now.

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Like father, like son??? (olycom)
Please tell me that dame is not Clotilde!
Looks like the 3 pictures are from a party, so they really don't count much.

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This is definitely not Clotilde.
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drawing of prince Vittorio cell.
In the centre the bad from which the prince fall during the night (he was trying to go down and unfortunately he fall)

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For those who can read Italian there are some interesting article about VE's currrent events at www.dagospia.it This site has been proved more reliable than many "serious" newspapers and tabloids, despite its funny format. It apparently has no political affiliation either.
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Like father, like son??? (olycom)
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This week's issue of Novella2000. It reads: the Prince of Darkness (via dagospia)
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