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Old 08-31-2011, 06:23 AM
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Hardly to believe such a story.Queen Maria-Josè was a clear antifascist and met Mussolini very few times in private.
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Old 09-01-2011, 12:08 AM
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I agree, Marie Jose was clearly antifascist and the article cites a letter from Duce's son puts it suspect.
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Mussolini 'had affair with last Queen of Italy', claims secret letter written by his son in 1971 | Mail Online
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Old 09-01-2011, 10:15 AM
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Rubbish! Queen Maria José always hated Mussolini and his accolites. She appeared to be secretly involved with the Resistance, and she was also said to have taken part in a plot to kill Mussolini. I highly doubt Romano Mussolini could have ever written such a letter. He was a painter ( he exhibited his paintings in a nearby town here, and I had the chance to see him many a time, though I never talked to him. He seemed to be a gentle person), and a valued jazz pianist. Ironically his father prohibited the Italians from playing jazz or listening to it, because it was the music of the Black.
As far as I know he never showed any interest in politics.
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On the 18th of March in the church of Santa Chiara a Chiaia in Naples will be celebrated a Holy Mass in memory of King Umberto II:

U.M.I. - Unione Monarchica Italiana - Calendario

Mass in Naples for late King Umberto II:

U.M.I. - Unione Monarchica Italiana - News
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Old 08-13-2012, 07:30 AM
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King Umberto 11 was maried in 1926 to his first love Erminia from a very noble house.
This marriage has been kept a secret for 86 years they had daughter princess Lina.
she is King Umberto only legitimate child. She had a son who is now Raymondo Count of Savoia. The crown jewels where left to Princess Lina and that is why they are where they are today All will be revealed soon. Princess Lina's DNA can be traced back as far as Marie' Antoinette.Prince Victor is in for a rude shock.
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Old 08-13-2012, 02:36 PM
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If the marriage was indeed valid there would be a record of it somewhere which would surely have been made public by now, if it existed. With two wives and two families, Umberto must have been a master at the art of deception and the double life as no-one appears to have suspected a thing. It follows that the promise of "all will be revealed soon" carries little weight as it confirms that even after 86 years, no credible evidence has been put forward to support the claim.

If the Savoy Crown Jewels were left to Ermionia and she had legal proof of ownership, she or her heirs could have presented such documents to the Italian Central Bank in Rome at any tme since 1983 and claimed the inheritance. Instead, the jewels remain in the bank's vaults, where they have been since 1946.

The statement that "Princess Lina's DNA can be traced back as far as Marie Antoinette" requires some scrutiny. A span of 130-odd years is not that far back in terms of royal genealogy, but more importantly, are you stating that the DNA has been traced back or that it could be traced back? In the absence of verifiable laboratory evidence and documentation, neither claim has any validity.
To add another layer which makes the story even more implausable, three of Marie Antoinette's four children died young and the sole survivor died without issue:

• Marie-Thérèse-Charlotte (Madame Royale) (1778–1851), married the duc d'Angoulême and was childless
• Louis-Joseph, the Dauphin (1781–1789)
• Louis-Charles (later titular King Louis XVII) (1785–1795)
• Sophie-Hélène-Béatrix (1786-1787)


To sum up: No verifiable evidence has been produced to support any of the claims made in this thread. The lack of proof adds to the likelihood of the claims being bogus, meaning there is little value in adding to or repeating what has already been posted.
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Leslie ,
At Queen Marie-José glittering clothes exhibition in Brussels ,I saw a letter in which she announced to her Parents her Engagement.
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30 years ago, on 18 March 1983, HM King Umberto II of Italy passed away in Geneva after a long illness.

A conference, followed by a Mass, in remembrance of King Umberto on the anniversary of his death took place on saturday 16 March 2013 at the wonderful Sanctuary of Vicoforte. The meeting was organized by the Consulta dei Senatori del Regno (Council of the Senators of the Kingdom, a monarchist organization supporting the restoration of the monarchy and the claims of Prince Amedeo as Head of the Royal House of Savoy) and sponsored by the Province of Cuneo and by the Municipality of Vicoforte.
The meeting was attended, among the many guests, by TRH Prince Amedeo and Princess Silvia of Savoy; HRH Princess Maria Gabriella of Savoy was expected to attend, but she couldn't go and instead a message by her was read. A message from HRH Prince Aimone of Savoy was also read.

VICOFORTE: INCONTRO UMBERTO II 30 anni dopo
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And here photos from commemoration mass attended by Savoia family ( photos from Olycom). Olycom - News
Prince VE seeems to be ill or very tired.
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He doesn't look well,and is using a crutch also. It was just the Prince accompanied by his wife and son,I don't think any other family members attended the Mass at Hautecombe Abbey
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It appears that the two rival branches have organized two different ceremonies both on Saturday 16 March. This is quite sad IMO.
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Luciano Regulus has written a book about Queen Marie-José, née Princess Marie-José of Belgium. The book focuses on Marie-José's role against fascism. According to Noblesse & Royautes, Luciano Regulus has also written a detailed biography about the Italian Queen:

Entretien avec Luciano Regolo, auteur d’un livre sur la reine Marie José d’Italie | Noblesse & Royautés
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Prince Umberto married Princess Marie-Jose of Belgium in 1930.
After the marriage ceremony they were received by the Pope in the Vatican.
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HRH The Princess OF Piedmont and HRH The Duchess of Aosta attend a ceremony where Marie-José was installed as President of the Italian Red Cross.

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Beautiful article about King Umberto II:

2 giugno. Ricordo di un galantuomo: Umberto II di Savoia, ultimo Re d’ItaliaÂ* -Â* di Cristina Siccardi | Riscossa Cristiana
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A gallery of pictures of his late Majesty King Umberto II has been published by Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera on occasion of the 110th anniversary of the birth of the King:
Centodieci anni fa nasceva Umberto II, ultimo re d’Italia - Corriere.it
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Who officated the wedding ceremony?

I am trying to find out who officiated the wedding ceremony between Maria Jose' and Umberto II in Rome on January, 8th 1930.
Are there any videos or pictures of the wedding ceremony?
Any information, much appreciated!
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The royal wedding of HRH Princess Marie Jose of Belgium and HRH Prince Umberto of Italy.

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I am trying to find out who officiated the wedding ceremony between Maria Jose' and Umberto II in Rome on January, 8th 1930.
Are there any videos or pictures of the wedding ceremony?
Any information, much appreciated!
Their wedding was officiated by Cardinal Pietro Maffi, Archbishop of Pisa.
Originally the wedding was planned to be celebrated by Cardinal Giuseppe Gamba, Archbishop of Torino, whom Umberto was very fond of; unfortunately, Cardinal Gamba died a couple of weeks before the date planned for the wedding. Then it was Pope Pius XI who chose Cardinal Maffi to replace him.
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