Italian Noble and Princely Families 2: July 2007- - Page 3

starnightsky · #41 03-09-2008, 09:39 PM

I was googling the name of Contessa Aurora de Petris Fraggianni which led me to this site. Her story sounds very strange and convoluted!

Toledo posted on part 1 of this thread:

Oh, LauraMCS, the horror on clicking on that link! There is another one with a picture of hers http://contessaaurora.tripod.com/index.htm
So, is she or is she not? Somehow I also feel intrigued in all the effort she is putting to present herself this way. Too much.

Then I found another site Welcome to www.whisperingmaples.net which explores all the questions of "is she or is she not"? It has all sorts of interesting stuff relating to Aurora and her claim of being a contessa along with the other cast of characters who are also involved in this. So if anyone who posted or read about Aurora in Part 1 and is still interested - go check out this website and judge for yourself. It answers a lot of questions.

AnthonyG · #42 03-09-2008, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by starnightsky

Then I found another site Welcome to www.whisperingmaples.net which explores all the questions of "is she or is she not"? It has all sorts of interesting stuff relating to Aurora and her claim of being a contessa along with the other cast of characters who are also involved in this. So if anyone who posted or read about Aurora in Part 1 and is still interested - go check out this website and judge for yourself. It answers a lot of questions.

I was already at that site Welcome to www.whisperingmaples.net and it was an eye opener when you read the newspaper articles of being honorary and then becoming the contessa without proof. It is really incredible to see the facts right in front of your nose.

**GlitteringTiaras** · #43 03-10-2008, 12:24 AM

The whole thing is strange, including the guy who runs that site, which makes me wonder if he's some jaded ex-lover or ex-friend. Why would he care so much? Bizarre.

Lakshmi · #44 03-10-2008, 01:13 AM

There is a lot of going on about Aurora on some other royal forum . The person who runs this website is ex-friend. Why he cares so much, because he fully believed her, trusted her claims, and later found out he was a victim of deception. I can understand his feelings. He is posting on this other royal forum.
And Aurora using her fraudelent claims even joined AMADE, pretended to act on its befalf, although she was never authorized to do so. So, it was quite a serious fraud... I got all this information from this other royal forum. It was posted by people who said they knew Aurora personally.

**GlitteringTiaras** · #45 03-10-2008, 02:16 AM

Interesting.

So, is this person going around, determined to get the word out about this alleged "Countess"? While she's allegedly committing fraud (is she making money off this claim? Sorry to ask, but I'm not familiar with this story), he's going out of his way to...? Why?

He sounds bitter, if you ask me, and most ex-friends don't go out of their way like this person doing to knowingly damage her reputation, whether she's lying or not. He needs to get over it and let her deal with the fallout. I mean, afterall, it just seems so incredibly... pointless, on his part.

Lakshmi · #46 03-10-2008, 02:35 AM

I was not able to figure out from posts on this other royal forum, if Aurora was making money from her claims. But posters, who said they knew her, stated that she tried to be as close as possible to prince Albert of Monaco. Those posters said she had plans to marry prince Albert, although she spoke with him only once at Amhest college in MA and she barely knew him.

All this is very strange.

**Tosca** · #47 03-10-2008, 11:35 AM

I never heard of this "contessa" before. I did some research on the net, and found that the Fraggianni family became extinct around the turning of the XIX century, and that their castle has been a property of the Italian state since 2002. In the article there are the Fraggianni marquis and barons mentioned, so why does she introduce herself as a countess? Sounds like a very strange story...

AnthonyG · #48 03-10-2008, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by GlitteringTiaras

Interesting.

So, is this person going around, determined to get the word out about this alleged "Countess"? While she's allegedly committing fraud (is she making money off this claim? Sorry to ask, but I'm not familiar with this story), he's going out of his way to...? Why?

He sounds bitter, if you ask me, and most ex-friends don't go out of their way like this person doing to knowingly damage her reputation, whether she's lying or not. He needs to get over it and let her deal with the fallout. I mean, afterall, it just seems so incredibly... pointless, on his part.

Maybe he does sound bitter but maybe you should read the entire plot on that forum. {Edited by Mandy}
Sorry to say but if you are not familiar with that story then maybe you should read up on it. Maybe by him standing up is a good thing, I am not sitting in judgement of him. {Edited by Mandy}JMO

**Tosca** · #49 03-10-2008, 01:47 PM

Donna Alessandra Romana of the Princes Borghesi at a party in Rome with her brother Fabio and her sister-in-law Jakaranda Falck (on the left)

Alessandra is a canditate for a centre/right party at the next general elections. (dagospia)

**GlitteringTiaras** · #50 03-10-2008, 01:52 PM

Honestly, Anthony, I spent the better half of last night (after reading Lakshmi's last post) reading that man's entire site. Furthermore, my belief regarding his motive is the same prior to reading his entire message board dedicated to slandering her name (whether this Contessa is lying or not): He's bitter and frankly, he comes of being incredibly obsessed with ruining her.

At this point, it is quite clear that most likely this woman's claim, that she is a Countessa, is false. So now what? Why should someone who used to friends with her, waste his spare time "spreading the word"? Is it his sole responsiblity to "get the truth out"?

Both come off as being incredibly bizarre, and, to be frank, not right in the head.

AnthonyG · #51 03-10-2008, 08:56 PM

Sorry Glitter, but I think I would rather know who the people are that are going to con me. You may think that guy is not right in the head and maybe he is pushing it to the letter, but what would happen if no one knew what that contessa was doing. What would happen if you donated money to a good charity through her and foun the money never made it? What would you or anyone do if you found that she got too close to Albert and snapped, she got close enough to him in June 2006 at that College thing at Amherst.
Ok you are right... he is not right in the head. By the way, since you went to his site, did you enjoy the private members pages.Now they were really eye openers don't you think?

**GlitteringTiaras** · #52 03-10-2008, 09:24 PM

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what would happen if no one knew what that contessa was doing.

Is she hurting anyone mentally or financially over this?

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What would happen if you donated money to a good charity through her and foun the money never made it?

Anyone who sends money to an individual, without doing their research about a particular charity, claiming to represent this entity, and to send money directly to her (or anyone individual's bank account), well, let's just say I wouldn't feel all that sorry for that gulible person in the first place.

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What would you or anyone do if you found that she got too close to Albert and snapped

Snapped? As in taking a photo? Or as in bonkers? Again, if it has nothing to do with me, personally and as long as it doesn't intentially harm another, then I really don't care.

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By the way, since you went to his site, did you enjoy the private members pages.Now they were really eye openers don't you think?

Honestly, not really. In fact, I was put off.

Look, the fact that his site is set up in such a remedial style tends to put off the reader (hence me). Again, one can deduce that he is a man who is completely obsessed with slandering this so-called "Contessa." Furthermore, some of his so-called evidence is so incredibly blurry that it is hard to make out.

Second, his "rough translations" need work in order to sway me to his side.

Third, we know his overall thesis, but he needs to build his case. It's too patchy here and there stuff splattered all over the place.

Frankly, I'm really not all that interested in this case of the Contessa.

AnthonyG · #53 03-10-2008, 10:45 PM

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By the way, since you went to his site, did you enjoy the private members pages.Now they were really eye openers don't you think?
Honestly, not really. In fact, I was put off.

Look, the fact that his site is set up in such a remedial style tends to put off the reader (hence me). Again, one can deduce that he is a man who is completely obsessed with slandering this so-called "Contessa." Furthermore, some of his so-called evidence is so incredibly blurry that it is hard to make out.

HAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAA
So you managed to get into his private members pages? Well congratulations you have to be the first to get in without a password....hahahahahhahha why do I say that?

You spoke of doing this last night? I requested a password and found that he was unable to issue any new login ID's since Saturday due to a restructuring of the server. You must have magic fingers...

**GlitteringTiaras** · #54 03-10-2008, 11:11 PM

No, you're jumping the gun here, Anthony. I never said nor did I imply that I went into the membership area of his site.

The information that I read was the information available to the public including those "pink" letters he posted.

AnthonyG · #55 03-10-2008, 11:51 PM

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No, you're jumping the gun here, Anthony. I never said nor did I imply that I went into the membership area of his site.

The information that I read was the information available to the public including those "pink" letters he posted.

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By the way, since you went to his site, did you enjoy the private members pages.Now they were really eye openers don't you think?
Honestly, not really. In fact, I was put off.

Look, the fact that his site is set up in such a remedial style tends to put off the reader (hence me). Again, one can deduce that he is a man who is completely obsessed with slandering this so-called "Contessa." Furthermore, some of his so-called evidence is so incredibly blurry that it is hard to make out.

You did not get into nthe members page as you stated yo did.......why did you say you did?

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Originally Posted by GlitteringTiaras

No, you're jumping the gun here, Anthony. I never said nor did I imply that I went into the membership area of his site.

The information that I read was the information available to the public including those "pink" letters he posted.

<GT - removed crude word>.... HERE IS WHAT YOU SAID:

Look, the fact that his site is set up in such a remedial style tends to put off the reader (hence me). Again, one can deduce that he is a man who is completely obsessed with slandering this so-called "Contessa." Furthermore, some of his so-called evidence is so incredibly blurry that it is hard to make out.

**GlitteringTiaras** · #56 03-11-2008, 12:24 AM

Anthony, I said that I read his entire message board, hence what is available to the public without being a member. I'm sorry if read your comments to fast and as a result I zoomed past your "private" comment.

Now, do you have anything else to add to the discussion, which is Italian and Princely Families Part 2. If so, please add your thoughts. If not, and you wish to debate this inane issue please PM me. Other members are not interested in hearing two people banter back and forth.

Back on topic, please.

starnightsky · #57 03-11-2008, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by AnthonyG

I was already at that site Welcome to www.whisperingmaples.net and it was an eye opener when you read the newspaper articles of being honorary and then becoming the contessa without proof. It is really incredible to see the facts right in front of your nose.

Anthony G - You sound like you think this honourary contessa story i