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Old 03-09-2009, 03:56 PM
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Why don't you think Umberto is the right name?
Umberto seems to be an old-fashioned name - it certainly carries a lot of history.
I find it kind of cool when parents name their babies with old-fashioned names - they will probably use a cute nickname with this baby or call him by a second or third name.
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Old 03-09-2009, 04:05 PM
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I wonder which "cute" name could come out from Umberto:Berto?
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I wonder which "cute" name could come out from Umberto:Berto?
I hope not the one of King Umberto II, Bepo...however usually Berto is the nickname for Umberto.
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Congratulations to the parents!
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Old 03-10-2009, 02:00 AM
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The newborn Umberto has been granted the title of "Prince of Piedmont" by his grandfather the Duke of Savoy.

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NACE EL HIJO DEL PRÍNCIPE AIMONE DE SABOYA-AOSTA Y LA PRINCESA OLGA DE GRECIA
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Old 03-10-2009, 05:51 AM
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The newborn Umberto has been granted the title of "Prince of Piedmont" by his grandfather the Duke of Savoy.

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The same news but at prince's Amadeo website
Real Casa di Savoia - Comunicato di S.A.R.il Principe Amedeo di Savoia
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Old 03-10-2009, 07:07 AM
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Is Umberto his only name or will possible other names announced later?
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Old 03-10-2009, 09:55 AM
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The newborn Umberto has been granted the title of "Prince of Piedmont" by his grandfather the Duke of Savoy.

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This is a wonderful news!!!
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Old 03-10-2009, 03:23 PM
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Is Umberto his only name or will possible other names announced later?
If other names are announced, I think it is likely it will be something like Umberto Amedeo Michele Pio Aimone Maria

Amedeo and Michele for his grandfathers, Aimone for his father, and they can throw in Pio after Padre Pio!
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Great news!All the best luck to the new Prince!!
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Nothing from VE and EF about the birth of Umberto?? No declarations, no congratulations, no titles, even if minor titles??? Umberto ever is a Prince of the Family VE says to be the Head...
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So we have two Princes of Piedmont right now,
Emanuele Filiberto Umberto Reza Ciro Renato Maria di Savoia-Carignano, Prince of Venice and Prince of Piedmont
Umberto di Savoia-Aosta, Prince of Piedmont.
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So we have two Princes of Piedmont right now,
Emanuele Filiberto Umberto Reza Ciro Renato Maria di Savoia-Carignano, Prince of Venice and Prince of Piedmont
Umberto di Savoia-Aosta, Prince of Piedmont.
But which one is the right one? (personally, I have no doubts about...)
Two Princes of Piedmont cannot exist...
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Old 03-10-2009, 04:50 PM
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But which one is the right one? (personally, I have no doubts about...)
Two Princes of Piedmont cannot exist...
Well, maybe we should go to to try to find the answer
http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...rs-2411-4.html
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This seems to be the only thread about The Duke and Duchess of Apulia, so I have to ask this here: is The Duchess of Apulia still an Eastern Orthodox Christian? I don't recall reading anywhere that she converted to Roman Catholicism.
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This seems to be the only thread about The Duke and Duchess of Apulia
This is the baby thread. The parents' thread is here: Prince Aimone and Princess Olga of Savoy-Aosta September 2008-
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Old 03-11-2009, 08:22 AM
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So we have two Princes of Piedmont right now...
Good question. Burke's Royal Families of the World Vol 1 gives Emanuele Filiberto 'Prince of Venice' as his only title, as does my Almanach de Gotha. Some other references give 'Prince of Venice and Prince of Piedmont', while Wiki gives 'Prince of Venice and Piedmont'.

Curiously, Vittorio Emanuele, although effective Crown Prince of Italy in May-June 1946, is not known as 'Crown Prince' (as for example Alexander of Yugoslavia/Serbia) but rather as 'Prince of Naples'. Since the title of Prince of Piedmont has historical significance within the Savoy dynasty I've never understood why either Vittorio Emanuele or his only son Emanuele Filiberto didn't or don't carry (or, more accurately, use) this title. In hindsight they appear to have left the door open for an Aosta heir to assume it, which is what has happened, although maybe they were hoping that EF would have a son to carry the Piedmont title.


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Nothing from VE and EF about the birth of Umberto?? No declarations, no congratulations..
Nothing so far that anyone has picked up, although one would hope there may have been at least a private message of congratulations. After all, a new Savoy Prince is a rare occurrence.
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Old 03-11-2009, 09:36 AM
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Vittorio Emanuele didn't carry the title of Prince of Piedmont only because this was the title of his Father when VE was born; so VE carried the other title for the Heir to the Throne, Prince of Naples. In 1971 he marrid Marina Ricolfi Doria; King Umberto never recognised this wedding as dinastyc, and VE lost his rights to the Throne and his Title, so when Emanuele Filiberto was born in 1972 the King gave him the title of Prince of Venice, but not the one of Prince of Piedmont, because EF was not the heir. In 1984 VE gave EF the title of Prince of Piedmont, but, not being VE the Head of the Family, this act was not dinastycally valid.
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