Young Russian Royalty

Is there by chance any single Russian Princes?

[Will]

Actually, I've been looking (in vain, so far) for a recent photo of the Grand Duke Georgi Romanov. Does any one have such a photo, either to post or to e-mail to me?

Thanks!

[Will]

There is a full page photo of Grand Duke Georgi in the September issue of Vanity Fair.

[ally_cooper]

Yes of course. The most young and single Princes Romanov are:

Prince Theodore (Fedor) Nikitich Romanov. Born 30 Nov 1974. Descendant of Xenia Alexandrovna, Grand Duchess, daughter of Alexander III.
Prince Daniel Joseph Nikolaievich Romanov. Born 19 mar 1972.
Prince Nicholas Christopher Nikolaievich Romanov. Born 30 jul 1968. Divorced.
Prince Rostislav Rostislavovich Romanov. Born 21 may 1985.
Prince Nikita Rostislavovich Romanov. Born 24 jan 1987. Also Descendants of Xenia Alexandrovna.

Grand Duke Georgi Mihailovich (Von Hohenzollern-) Romanov. Born 13 mar 1981.
Descendant of Vladimir Alexandrovich, son of Alexander II.

Prince Georgi Alexandrovich Jurievski. Born 8 dec 1961. Descendant of a Prince with the same name, ilegitimate son of Alexander II.

Also exist, other descendants of Romanov Family but they not have title.

[moody]

:o There is also a line from Grand duches Olga later Queen of Greece!!Soon I shall post further information!!!!

[Sean.~]

Originally posted by moody@Jan 27th, 2004 - 2:20 pm
:o  There is also a line from Grand duches Olga later Queen of Greece!!Soon I shall postt further information!!!!

Few, if any of her descendants, qualify, as they do not meet the Russian Imperial House Law requirments. Apart from the Kyrilovichi, the last male Romanov dynast was Prince Basil. Afer him the (hypothetical) Crown would pass to the line of his nearest female Romanov relative who met the criteria. That would be the line of Anastasia Mihailovna, Grand Duchess of Mecklenburg (even though she was the daughter of a younger brother of Olga's father). However, her descendants too do not qualify. thus today there are only two dynasts: Maria Vladimirovna and George Mihailovich. Vera Constantinova (niece of Queen Olga) died a couple of years ago, and Princess Ekatrina Ionovna (daughter of Ion Constantinovich and Helen of Serbia) renounced her rights at the time of marriage.

The likes of Nicholas Romanov et al. have no legitimate claim.

[moody]

This is pure "Blue blood" line!None is lesser than a the rank of 'Prince'But...Iam not sure that anyone of the young Princes would like to go to Russia!!!

[Sean.~]

Originally posted by moody@Feb 7th, 2004 - 9:51 am
This is pure "Blue blood" line!None is lesser than a the rank of 'Prince'But...Iam not sure that anyone of the young Princes would like to go to Russia!!!

It is "pure blood line" but a very junior line. And it is in the female line boot. For these and other reasons they don't meet the criteria set out in the Russian Imperial House Law.

[moody]

:( Please show me,a "senior" blue blood line,of Orthodox doctrine,that is closer to the criteria of the Imperial house!

Question is the Imperial's house roules criteria the only measure ????

I mean that The All-Russia Empire now has sufficient geographical borders so ,and when royalty will be eshtablished again,it will be more than a huge Kingdom with cirtain administration format e.t.c,e.t.c.

[Fireweaver]

Yes, the house laws are what one needs to follow when deciding who becomes the monarch. That's why the Royal Houses have them, to keep things orderly and to make sure that the lines of succession are clear and without contraversy. It's a shame some peopledon't believe that and ignore the House laws. It would end soo many arguments!

[cuervo]

Fireweaver ,dear,reread my question!When the events has happened in 1917,Russia was an empire!!Thus her borders were expanding in some places,so it was the imperial law of succesion!!Maybe now they can energise par example the Salic Law(If I am not mistaken) so it will be other criteria.......

[Fireweaver]

Unless the head of the house changes the laws, the rules stay as they are, therefore succession cannot change. So, you're stuck with what's there. Grandduchess Maria and her son.

[Sean.~]

Originally posted by Fireweaver@Feb 10th, 2004 - 11:15 am
Unless the head of the house changes the laws, the rules stay as they are, therefore succession cannot change. So, you're stuck with what's there. Grandduchess Maria and her son.

Indeed. Although one could even argue that the Head of the House can not substantially change the laws. Since the monarchy is no longer in effect the head of the house derives his/her legitimacy from the pre-existing laws from themonarchial era. I think I cited some examples before.

Cuervo, I still don't completely understand what you're trying to ask/say. In any case, I think Fireweaver have already provided sufficient answers (several times now).

[Queen of Portugal]

Originally posted by Princess_Elizaveta@Sep 11th, 2003 - 10:43 pm
Yikes! Relax, will ya! So his is not fully Russian....Nobody's perfect!

and Juan Carlos was born in Italy then lived in Portugal/ Lisbon .. so they are all from somewhere's else.. its ok .. brings cohesion throughout Europe..

[tiaraprin]

There is dispute to who is the real heir of the Imperial throne.

Grand Duke Vladimir and his wife (whom some believe has a falsified royal pedigree from Georgia) only had one daughter, Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna. Grand Duke Vladmir issued a decree riding the Imperial House of the Salic Law allowing his daughter to be the heir. Many Russian royals disagree with the Proclamation and consider the Grand Duchess ineligible. Thus the throne would pass to the next highest Prince who was Nicholas Romanov until he passed on.

[Alexandra Feodorovna]

Yes, according to the Russian imperial rules, Prince Georgiy does not qualify for a throne because Emperor Paul established a law according to which the throne could only go to male decendents of the Romanov family. I guess he was really annoyed by the fact that his mother continued to rule the counry long after he reached an appropriate age. The law was one of the major reasons Nicholas II and his wife were so anxious to have a son!

[Mashka]

Are there still alot of Romanovs in Russia? I'm very interested in the last Tsar and his family, and the Anastasia mystery. I know almost everything about them, but I wasn't aware that there were still so many Romanovs.

[Sean.~]

Originally Posted by tiaraprin

Thus the throne would pass to the next highest Prince who was Nicholas Romanov until he passed on.

His status as Prince is certainly be debated, and he is most certainly not the highest (except in his own mind ;-))

[branchg]

Originally Posted by Sean.~

His status as Prince is certainly be debated, and he is most certainly not the highest (except in his own mind ;-))

Actually, most of the family is styled in appropriately. There was no such thing as a "Prince/Princess Romanov" in Imperial times. Either you were a grandchild of the Tsar styled as Prince/Princess of Russia (Royal Highness) or a great-grandchild styled as Prince/Princess of Russia (Highness). And this status could only be held if your parents had made an equal marriage as approved by the Tsar.

Morganatic descendants (including Nicholas Romanov) were granted a new title, usually a Prince/Princess Romanovsky-Other Name, with the style of Serene Highness. Some members of the family did seek titles from Grand Duke Cyril or Grand Duke Vladimir when they married, others did not.

[Sean.~]

Originally Posted by branchg

Actually, most of the family is styled in appropriately. There was no such thing as a "Prince/Princess Romanov" in Imperial times. Either you were a grandchild of the Tsar styled as Prince/Princess of Russia (Royal Highness) or a great-grandchild styled as Prince/Princess of Russia (Highness). And this status could only be held if your parents had made an equal marriage as approved by the Tsar.

Morganatic descendants (including Nicholas Romanov) were granted a new title, usually a Prince/Princess Romanovsky-Other Name, with the style of Serene Highness. Some members of the family did seek titles from Grand Duke Cyril or Grand Duke Vladimir when they married, others did not.

Exactly. I posted this in this thread or one of the other Romanov threads sometime ago. AFAIC, Nicholas Romanov is nothing more than a self-important megalomaniac.