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Old 03-23-2009, 10:46 AM
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It's okay, I understand.
Yes, and finally the English version of Ventsenosnaya Semya came out in February this year!
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Old 03-24-2009, 12:23 AM
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I hope these were not posted before:
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Old 03-24-2009, 09:33 PM
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Thanks for posting those Olyashka! These five were not posted earlier in the thread. The last one with Olga is so amazing, I love it!
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Old 03-24-2009, 11:57 PM
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You're so welcome, AnastasiaEvidence!
I'll be posting more soon.
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Old 04-02-2009, 09:15 AM
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OTMA are the most beautiful girls in the world. They all were angels. Beautiful, kind, clever and well-brought up. Nicholas loved them very strongly. Tsar always respected their sense of choice, loved when his girls made perfomances, he also loved to see girls reading. He said that in such moments the girls' behavour changed at once as they started becoming very serious.
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Old 04-04-2009, 01:30 AM
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They were innocent and died tragically, but you can over romanticize them too. Yes, I suppose they were angels in a sense, certainly they were innocent young women who tragically never got a chance to have a life simply because they were Nicholas II's daughters. Where does the observation about the girls reading and then their behavior changing come from? I like that story a lot, but can't recall coming across it.
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Old 04-04-2009, 02:33 AM
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No, Grace Angel. I have learnt lots of documents and professional books of Tsar Nicholas and his family. As for my observations, I can say that Alexandra Feododorovna said that education is impossible without serious care of learning.
All girls had a very tight schedule, when they woke up, they must made their beds themselves, no outside help. (They began doing it since 6 years old). Then the whole family had breakfast together, after that they went to the church for an hour. The best time for that was 7 a.m. After coming back home, all girls started learning with the theachers. According to the contemporaries' recollections the most talanted girl in studying was Olga, the laziest was Maria.
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Old 04-04-2009, 10:52 AM
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Thanks. Since you're from Russia, I was wondering whether that story about OTMA was from a book in Russian maybe. I can only read English and there' s books in Russian about the Romanovs that I will never be able to read, alas.
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Old 04-04-2009, 12:05 PM
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Dear Grace Angel, the language isn't problem nowadays. Let's start learning Russian, if there is a difficult, I'll help you.)))
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Old 04-05-2009, 01:21 PM
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The last photo is my favorite of all OTMA photos. Note the beaded, glittery trim on their dresses. These dresses don't survive do they? (I know some of their clothes survive and I have seen pictures on other sites, but not these dresses).
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Old 04-06-2009, 02:55 PM
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The photo is as beautiful as girls are. The most beautiful girls were Tatiana and Maria.
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These are larger versions
Olga
Olga again
OTMA 1914
At Stavaka in 1916
Olga and Tatiana in 1915 at the hospital
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The last photo is my favorite of all OTMA photos. Note the beaded, glittery trim on their dresses. These dresses don't survive do they? (I know some of their clothes survive and I have seen pictures on other sites, but not these dresses).
Interesting question. I too, would like to know the name of the material and fashion designs of these dresses. It is very interesting to know. I don't know if those dresses survived. I do know that the material is silk, and I'm not sure if silk can last for 100 years?
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If you look on the Hermitage website they have clothes that did belong to OTMA, but not these dresses. But they do have gowns much like this material and age on there, that are much like these gowns of OTMA. These dresses of look alike material and age have survived the years, so maybe OTMA's gowns did too, they've never been exhibited though. Olga and Tatiana's 1913 court dresses have, however survived and been exhibited.
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If you look on the Hermitage website they have clothes that did belong to OTMA, but not these dresses. But they do have gowns much like this material and age on there, that are much like these gowns of OTMA. These dresses of look alike material and age have survived the years, so maybe OTMA's gowns did too, they've never been exhibited though.
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Yes, I saw those dresses. The exhibtion also had OTMA's summer dresses from 1907 here . But, these are in silk fabrics though. The 1910 set also wasn't made in silk either.

I think those dresses in the photo might be in the exhibition, since silk does last long. It just hasn't been photographed yet. It really would be nice if someone who has been to the Alexander Palace can say whether these dresses are in the exhibition if not, they maybe in the Winter Palace.
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I hadn't thought of the fact that they might be in the exhibition but not photographed. They look fragile, but that might have been more looks than factual. I would think had these dresses been in the exibition they would have been photographed, since these formal photos of OTMA in these dresses are some of the most widely known photos of OTMA. They are my favorite pics of OTMA anyway.
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I think those dresses were stored privately in the upstairs rooms of the Alexander Palace. The upstairs rooms are where the girls rooms are, so I suspect that those dresses are upstairs in the storage along with many other dresses in OTMA's photos. Too bad the upstairs section is off limits.
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Hopefully, someday they will appear in an exhibition if they survive.I think they are too well known not to. I actually e-mailed the Hermitage through their website recently to ask if they possibly have these dresses. But I haven't heard back. I thought it was worth a try, since they have had exibitions of OTMA's clothes in the past, and have some of OTMA's dresses and other clothing of the IF on their website.
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Just a note: 1913 court dresses of Olga and Tatiana were made of satin, not silk. Silk was included on their kokoshniki however.
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