Marie Pavlovna "The Elder" (Grand Duchess Vladimir) (1854-1920)

[Russophile]

Originally Posted by Avicenna

Sorry, but I do not know this. I found this book by accident in a museum shop in Berlin. The ISDN is 9783492243896. Maybe your local book store can help? It was published by Piper Verlag GmbH, München, back in 1991.

Cool! Thanks!

[Marengo]

Originally Posted by lexi4

It isn't in Romanov Autumn. I just checked. It talks about how hurt Marie was when Ella decided to convert.
Lexi

A bit late, but I finally found it in Romanov autumn. In the chapter ' A House Devided' it is said that Miechen converted in 1908, mainly out of ambition for her sons future. I do not know where Zeepvat gets the information from though, as she does not use footnotes.

[Cumberland]

That is intereting, one would have thought she would have converted long before. I believe there was some tension or dislike if you call it from the Dowager Empress, and there was a story about the Marinsky Theatre, which I believe was not the first time Marie Pavlovna found herself at adds with the ruler, his consort or his Mother.

[JPhinala]

Originally Posted by Cumberland

That is intereting, one would have thought she would have converted long before. I believe there was some tension or dislike if you call it from the Dowager Empress, and there was a story about the Marinsky Theatre, which I believe was not the first time Marie Pavlovna found herself at adds with the ruler, his consort or his Mother.

Ah. The Mariinsky Theater story is one of my favorites. For those of you who don't know it, I'll paraphrase it here.

The Dowager Empress used to have two tables set up with refreshments and invited the most prestigious people in the theater to dine with her. Sometimes the Empress Marie would go to reserve the space and the Grand Duchess would have already reserved it. As retaliation the Empress booked it the same evening as the Grand Duchess and the Grand Duchess, utterly embaressed in front of her guests, was forced to give up her table. The Grand Duchess, to her credit, bowed out and never tried to rival the Empress at the Mariinsky again. :)