I'm certainly not talking about Jesse James', Billy the Kid's or Butch Cassidy's claimant stories, and DNA tests.
Whenever I try to give examples of other cases as analogies, you always say 'what does that have to do with it' or 'I don't care.' Well, you know, your own personal woodpile has nothing to do with this case, either, but you're trying to use it to make a comparison, right? That's my point.
During this journey I have found far too many people who would not like to hear or see what Lenin, Stalin and the butchers like Yurovsky and other founders of the communist regime were capable of doing because of the need to be absolute rulers.
Everyone knows they were bad guys. It's a fact that the Bolsheviks lied about the family being alive when they were actually dead. But there never was, and still isn't, any need to cover up an 'escape' of a family member that never happened.
Life is what it is and we cannot go back and make it better.
That's true, like that the whole family died, all the claimants were fakes, as unfun as that is, and as disappointing it is for those who liked the mystery.
So, yes, we need to unravel the lies.
Everything the Bolsheviks said about the disposal of the bodies proved true once they were found, even the burn pit.
And, forensic science tells us what Yurovsky and the other Bolshevik's claim could not have happened. They could not have destroyed two bodies in two hours in the matter in which they tell us that they did. So, all I'm trying to do is find out is what did they really do with one of the grand duchesses and Alexei, the issue of Nicholas II and Alexandra.
They said they burned them, and two burned bodies were found, just where Yurovsky said they'd be. Even though the bodies weren't completely burned, after decomposing in a wet bog for 9 decades, there wasn't much left. As I said in my earlier post, the small amount of bones doesn't mean anything for that reason, and it certainly doesn't mean they 'lied' and something else happened to the Grand duchess and Tsarevich! Bones found in the pit tested as matches for a a male and female child of N and A. What's the problem again?
I do not understand why AWF and others do not want to know.
I did want to know, for many years. But now I DO know, because the bodies were found and identified. Denying this is only a conspiracy for those who refuse to give up the claimant stories.
When I say I don't care where the truth takes me. It's true.
If you really don't care, why not just accept the reality of the findings and the testings and stop inventing fanfiction sci-fi to make the story continue and change it to a more preferred outcome?
For all I know the Whites, who were not a bunch of angels either, may have planted the female bones from the mass grave to the two pits with the Tsarevich's, just as they probably did with the dog Jemmy in the Four Brother's Mine. I just don't know the answers. But, I promise to keep on looking.
AGRBear
So now it's the Whites?! Bear, the Whites never found the burial site, remember? This is well documented! The site wasn't found until 1979, and not unearthed until 1991. All this is only a story you make up in your imagination that has no basis in fact whatsoever.
The idea that ANYONE planted a piece of bone from the mass grave is positively preposterous, to put it mildly. The Whites never found the grave, and as for the Bolsheviks, we know from the reports that the burned bodies were FIRST, and then covered up, and all the rest dumped in the larger mass grave. This means that in order to plant a piece of the bones from the girls in the mass grave, it would have to have been intentionally broken off, burned to match the bones in the first grave, and the burn pit, which had been carefully hidden, reopened. This could not have happened, for several reasons- first, they were in a big hurry, and didn't have time for such things. Also, there would be no need, motive or purpose to do such a strange thing other than, I am supposing, in your world, to trick people who would find the bodies later, but this makes NO LOGICAL SENSE because they never expected anyone to find them ("the world will never know what we did with them") and most of all, since there would not be DNA testing for another 80+ years, they'd never heard of it, therefore they'd have no reason to think one day it might be tested and they'd have to 'plant' something to fool somebody! So all of your ideas are absolutely unrealistic, and obviously only a desperate grasp to hold onto a legend now settled into the dustbin of history. None of this is even remotely possible or realistic. If you want to spin yarns and dream up alternate fantasy outcomes, please write fanfiction. It's not history.
