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Old 07-02-2010, 06:08 PM
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I read "Born to Rule" and cannot recall any major mistakes, but then I was reading it more for fun and did not deliberate over the book like I have with others. I do remember that I learned much about Marie of Rumania and Maud of Norway which piqued my interest in those two Queens. Sophie's lot was tragic but not as tragic as Alexandra's and Ena's was up and down through the years.
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Old 07-02-2010, 06:57 PM
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I read "Born to Rule" and cannot recall any major mistakes, but then I was reading it more for fun and did not deliberate over the book like I have with others. I do remember that I learned much about Marie of Rumania and Maud of Norway which piqued my interest in those two Queens. Sophie's lot was tragic but not as tragic as Alexandra's and Ena's was up and down through the years.
Copy that. I have been enamoured of Marie/Missy since I have been to Maryhill. Maud piqued my interest as well.
It would be lovely to find out any errors. So much of history is from people's points of view which color it--however, what one person saw as their "truth" another's view could be vastly different.
I am at the part in "Born To Rule" where Anna Virubova had her accident. She was "near death" and Rasputin told her to open her eyes and she would be well. Maybe Anna and Alexandra *thought* she was near death that her condition was worse than what reality was so they attributed her miraculous recovery to Rasputin's "powers".
Ah! Such is history. . .
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Old 07-22-2010, 05:16 PM
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G.E.Rasputin was a sick person who manipulated innocent and naive people
I believe he did worse things than those reported Evil things that we may never learn
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Old 07-22-2010, 05:32 PM
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G.E.Rasputin was a sick person who manipulated innocent and naive people
I believe he did worse things than those reported Evil things that we may never learn
Like?? Whaddya think? We all know what a lecherous beast the guy was. I'm sure some women found that sexy in a perverted sort of way. Heck even Felix Yussopov was attracted to the guy.
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Old 07-22-2010, 05:48 PM
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I'm sure Rasputin had odd sexual preferences
For starters...
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I'm sure Rasputin had odd sexual preferences
For starters...
There was talk he was involved with that cult that believed in stripping dancing naked and having orgies. I don't think he was an active participant and believer, however! Russo thinks he certainly took pages from their book to justify himself and his urges.
The Khlysky's I believe.
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Old 07-22-2010, 06:28 PM
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Really? I believe he did participate
And no matter how shocking this may sound, he had a soft spot for little children too
A sick man I told you
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I am sure he participated only to the effect that he got what he wanted. Though I don't think he held their beliefs to heart. He just used them to further his aims, sex, women, Felix, Irina, power. That sort of thing.
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Old 07-22-2010, 07:05 PM
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I never heard about the children. What makes you think so? And I think Felix may have been somewhat attracted to Rasputin but he lured Rasputin to the mansion because Rasputin was attracted to Irina, Felix's wife!

Russo, we are of the same mind. Yikes!! LOL
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Russo, we are of the same mind. Yikes!! LOL
Yeah, he was a piece of work, that is for sure. I still need to get into Radzinski's book. I took a detour and went into GD Marie the Younger's book "Education of a Princess". I had read it about 15 years ago and I am amazed at how much I had forgotten. Almost to the Rasputin part.
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Old 07-23-2010, 02:47 PM
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You talk about books I wasn't talking about books
Oral narrations and traditions are more informative
Excuse me I can't say anything else
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Old 07-23-2010, 03:08 PM
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C'mon, Anne, you can't just leave us hanging like that!

I think that Rasputin was certainly not the nicest of persons (to put it mildly), but I've never thought of him as being wholly 100% evil! I know you've said that what you're saying isn't from books, but books are where most of the documented info, good and bad, is located.

Alix being Alix, I very much doubt that he ever had any carnal involvement with either her, her daughters, and certainly not Alexei.

And Russophile is right...he was a believer in the Khlysty precepts, one of which was that you had to sin in order to repent.
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You talk about books I wasn't talking about books
Oral narrations and traditions are more informative
Excuse me I can't say anything else
Well when you can please do explain what you mean about the Oral narrations.
Don't forget, the origional story of The Iliad and the Odyssesy was oral until someone wrote it down and I'm sure many pertinent things were lost in translation.
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Old 07-24-2010, 05:01 PM
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Why am I silent? Because I'm writing a book about all these things I have heard from senior members of my family
Read my book and you will become wiser
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Why am I silent? Because I'm writing a book about all these things I have heard from senior members of my family
Read my book and you will become wiser
Maybe . . .
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Why am I silent? Because I'm writing a book about all these things I have heard from senior members of my family
Read my book and you will become wiser
Post a link where it can be found.
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Old 07-25-2010, 12:30 PM
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Maybe . . .
Grin...doubt it too...


I look forward of having the new book by Margarita Nelipa ,The Murder of Grigorii Rasputin.She had access to original documents on Rasputin,in russian ofcourse yes,but she masters that language too.

It is a really well researched and detailed book by Australian Margarita Nelipa,a government pathologist of Russian descent,and a loved friend.

The book is availeble at Gilberts Royal Books and Librairie de Galignani (Paris).Absolutely worthwhile,finally not a hearsay wet finger sort of ill documented and screamingly false factuals.The plain thruth,a must read!Nah,I donīt get any royalties for saying this,I say it because that is how it is.I always do,as all well know ofcourse!...
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I'll pass. I'm not a fan of hers.
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Old 07-26-2010, 06:37 AM
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The best book Iīve ever read about Rasputin is written byl Edward Radzinsky (or Radzinskij), he is Russian and he wrote many other interesting books about russian history. I think he tries to be objective, he doesnť say that Rasputin was good or bad but you can find in his books many interesting facts and make your own opinion.
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Those of you discussing the new Rasputin book might find the referenced forum from Alexander Palace Time Machine of interest. I must say, I'm awfully tempted to order the book....

A New Rasputin Biography by Margarita Nelipa
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