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Old 02-06-2012, 08:43 PM
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Yes, both Felix & Dmitri did survive as well as Princess Irina. There is an excellent book titled, The Flight of the Romanovs. It details the build up to the Revolution then the lives of those who survived and escaped Russia. Sad, in many ways, but very interesting.
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Old 02-07-2012, 03:59 PM
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Felix relocated, as did many others, to paris where he kept a salon. I heard from another poster who said that their grand--or great granddaughter Xenia Tiflis (I think that's correct) asked for the yussopov palace back and they told her that they cannot do it. Interesting, huh? I wish I had the full story, though.
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Do you know why they told her no? Can she at least live there rent free?
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Do you know why they told her no? Can she at least live there rent free?
Isn't the palace now a museum devoted to Rasputin and his murder? Besides not wanting to return the property to Felix's descendants, the government probably makes money off of the museum and would not want to lose that income.
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Why after nearly 100 years would they let her live there for free let alone return it to the family? Could the family even attempt to afford to maintain the place?
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Isn't the palace now a museum devoted to Rasputin and his murder? Besides not wanting to return the property to Felix's descendants, the government probably makes money off of the museum and would not want to lose that income.
It is. Mr. Russo and I were going to go there on a cruise back in 2009 however the economy had a different plan for us.
And VM I am sure you are very near the mark. However I would love to get ahold of the origional story and get the real scoop on it. It was second hand at best and that really isn't coolio for this forum. My apologies.
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Old 02-09-2012, 06:31 PM
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More importantly, such a restitution would set a precedent for every other noble and non-noble family which had their property or properties confiscated during the Lenin and Stalin eras.
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Isn't the palace now a museum devoted to Rasputin and his murder? Besides not wanting to return the property to Felix's descendants, the government probably makes money off of the museum and would not want to lose that income.
I know there are some palaces that have been turned into museums and others that are apparently collecting dust. If it is indeed a museum I would understand not wanting to turn it over. Though it seems a little weird that a museum to Rasputin's murder is housed in the palace belonging to his murderer.
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Well the murder did start out at the Youssoupov's Moika Palace, so it seems the logical place for the museum.
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Check out The Real Rasputin at Rasputin and The Jews | Vindicating Rasputin and read "Rasputin and The Jews: A Reversal of History" Rasputin and The Jews: A Reversal of History: Delin Colón: 9781461027751: Amazon.com: Books and
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In case anyone jumps to the wrong conclusions due to the titles "...and the Jews", here is part of the Amazon blurb for "...A Reversal of History":

"This book is a well-documented account of Rasputin as a healer, equal rights activist and man of God, and why he was so vilified by the aristocracy that their vicious rumors became accepted as history. For nearly a century, Grigory Rasputin, spiritual advisor to Russia's last Tsar and Tsarina, has been unjustly maligned simply because history is written by the politically powerful and not by the common man.

A wealth of evidence shows that Rasputin was discredited by a fanatically anti-Semitic Russian society, for advocating equal rights for the severely oppressed Jewish population, as well as for promoting peace in a pro-war era. Testimony by his friends and enemies, from all social strata, provides a picture of a spiritual man who hated bigotry, inequity and violence. The author is the great-great niece of Aron Simanovitch, Rasputin's Jewish secretary.
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In Nicholas and Alexandra, Robert K. Massie wrote:

Having herself entered into religious retreat, Ella regarded Rasputin as a blasphemous and lascivious imposter. At every opportunity she spoke, sometimes gently, sometimes bitterly, to Alexandra about the starets.
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Ella was an anti-Semite, too. She was less noble than you think. I do not know if Rasputin was as noble as they are trying to make him appear, but the Romanov's were not very nice people, especially when it came to Jews and other sects they could care less about.
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In Nicholas and Alexandra, Robert K. Massie wrote:

To support his family, Rasputin took up farming. One day while plowing, he thought he saw a vision and declared that he had been directed to make a pilgrimage.
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