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Grand Duke George visits Russia to rarely in my opinion.
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I'm a tad late to the party. :) But a fact that might need to be looked at for the Grand Duke's " possible" royal marriages is hemophilia. (I have this disease so it's given that I think of it lol) While Queen Victoria's children were known to be carriers and the Grand Duke would have come from an alternate lineage, its still something to be concerned about.

Many physicians think that Victoria's carrier status was not a " genetic mutation" but had in fact been part of European Royal lineages for generations. If that is true then the houses of Western Europe that married into lines within the Romanov's would need to be genetically tested prior to marriage.
So that would rule out both Princess Eugenie and Princess Beatrice. As direct descendants (twicely) of Victoria.

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Old 05-14-2011, 05:29 PM
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Grand Duke George could marry a Greek Princess, a Bulgarian Princess or a German Princess.
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I'm a tad late to the party. :) But a fact that might need to be looked at for the Grand Duke's " possible" royal marriages is hemophilia. (I have this disease so it's given that I think of it lol) While Queen Victoria's children were known to be carriers and the Grand Duke would have come from an alternate lineage, its still something to be concerned about.

Many physicians think that Victoria's carrier status was not a " genetic mutation" but had in fact been part of European Royal lineages for generations. If that is true then the houses of Western Europe that married into lines within the Romanov's would need to be genetically tested prior to marriage.
So that would rule out both Princess Eugenie and Princess Beatrice. As direct descendants (twicely) of Victoria.

Just my random thinking. :)

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No, it wouldn't rule out Beatrice and Eugenie as the haemophilia gene is carried on the x chromosome and is generally inherited from the mother (unless the father has haemophilia, which Prince Andrew doesn't. In fact, I don't think any of the Queen's descendants carry the 'Royal haemophilia' gene as they are descended from George VI. Of course, they could inherit the gene from non-royal ancestors.

Even if this issue did apply, they could still get married if they truly loved each other. They might choose not to have children or use IVF.
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Grand Duke must have an equal marriage like all his ancestors.
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No, it wouldn't rule out Beatrice and Eugenie as the haemophilia gene is carried on the x chromosome and is generally inherited from the mother (unless the father has haemophilia, which Prince Andrew doesn't. In fact, I don't think any of the Queen's descendants carry the 'Royal haemophilia' gene as they are descended from George VI. Of course, they could inherit the gene from non-royal ancestors.

Even if this issue did apply, they could still get married if they truly loved each other. They might choose not to have children or use IVF.

The theory of X-chromosome inherited Hemo, while supported medically has also recently became more complex. What was thought to have only " Hemophilia" in the Royals, has now been shown to have von Willebrands Factor VIII clotting disorders as well. Some hematologists believe that whether someone inherits Hemo A, Hemo B, or vWD can be traced to both MALE and FEMALE ancestors.
For instance, von Willebrands Disease is far more common than originally thought. And many women who died in childbirth due to excessive bleeding were in fact " bleeders". The Royals are full of them. It's theorized by some in the American Hemo Assoc. that the close cross/inbreeding of royal lines (with close relations) could have altered the 8th Factor. *shrug*

Also: There would be no way the Duke of York, Prince of Wales or QEII would give the Royal Consent to a marriage to the Imperial House of Romanov. No financial stability. The Princesses would be in essence "lowering" their standards as 5th and 6th in succession to the Throne of the Commonwealth.
Just my .02 cents. :)

(Oh, and it is very possible to be both a hemophiliac carrier, a symptomatic carrier and have von Willebrands Disease. I carry Hemo A, and have vWD. )
Unfortunately with medical records so private it is hard to know if any current Royals have been afflicted. ... :(
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But would financial stability stand in the way of royal consent to a marriage? There does not appear to be an impediment to a British royal marrying an Orthodox believer.
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I do not suppose Grand Duke George will marry an English Princess.
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But would financial stability stand in the way of royal consent to a marriage? There does not appear to be an impediment to a British royal marrying an Orthodox believer.

I would think that financial stability would certainly factor into Royal Consent. A Royal life isn't a cheap endeavor.
Royal Families have always tried to seek financial strength in marriage. In William and Kate's case, William's financial future is more than secure as an Heir to the Throne.
The Grand Duke has little as far as financial security. He has a Title, yes.
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What would happen if Grand Duke George would want to marry a commoner? It seems to me that it would defeat GD Maria's argument over the unequal marriages of the cousins...
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I think his mother would have a "Royal Fit" :) She is serious about his duty to the Fatherland and his duty to follow dynastic law.

The drama queen in me would love to watch that whole scenario go down though!
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Dynastic law my understanding of it is that you have to marry someone of equal ranking.
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And I think the world is running out of royals of equal rank
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Dynastic law my understanding of it is that you have to marry someone of equal ranking.
I understand that, but I'm just curious to see the reaction....
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Dynastic law my understanding of it is that you have to marry someone of equal ranking.
Which is a part of the dispute over their claim to the Romanov throne. I have a hard time believing he'll find a suitable wife willing to take on the "are-they-or-aren't-they" saga. And certainly $$$ has to factor into it at some point.
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Regardless of whether Grand Duke Georgi marries someone of equal ranking or doesn't, there is still a controversy about who is the rightful heir. Some indiviudals think he is. Others don't. This dispute will not go away with a marriage to a woman of equal ranking. Will be interesting to see how it will unfold.
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Grand Duke is the only Heir of the Grand Duchess Maria.
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Grand Duke is the only Heir of the Grand Duchess Maria.
Yes, Lucy means that the other side of the family, the Princes Romanov from the Nicholaevitches.
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What would happen if Grand Duke George would want to marry a commoner? It seems to me that it would defeat GD Maria's argument over the unequal marriages of the cousins...
It would indeed be a serious problem in Maria's eyes. I doubt it is much of a problem for anyone else since the rest of the family long gave up trying to stay in compliance with the Pauline Laws and considers them to be irrelevant today.

There is no throne or any hope of a throne, so the argument about equal marriages is rather academic at this point. And George is likely to find it very difficult to find a royal to marry, especially since the prospective bride would have to convert to Orthodoxy as well.
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A german protestant Princess could convert to orthodoxy.
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