Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna and other claimants to the Throne 2: Oct '06-Jun '08

[chancellor]

Dear Al bina,

This is an excellent link for you, much news, the Latest on the HIH GD Maria

for those non Russia speakers please put the URL in Babel fish and it will give you a transaltion , not perfect but enough to keep up with the latest news, Al bina, l see many comments about the Grand Duke but the other link l gave you has some great info from one on one interviews with HIH GD Georgy

again for the non Russians please read a previous posting of the link to the HIH GD Maria secretary web site , same thing put the URL in Babel fish .

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Ðîññèéñêîå Ìîíàðõè÷åñêîå Äâèæåíèå - Monarhia.Ru [ the main web site a must for all those making opinions please read the articticles in detail] Please l ask all those making comments many that are defamotory and un pleasant, please review the one on one interviews on this site with the Grand Duke, its better to have some usefull real and tangable info, than a lot of hot air, the other link gives you updated news, the Russian Imperial Union Order, which is the legagcy of the White Army of Imperial Russia, is the most long serving and active organisation, has a proven active service since the Civil War in Russia, numerous publications on Orthodoxy History and active service, we have served Imperial Russia since the loss of the homeland, should any one wish to read our publications contact the headqauters

RIUO




http://www.interfax-religion.com/?act=news&div=2804


http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2007/s1996691.htm live footage Russian Ball in Melbourne


http://www.kro.su/ Monarchist political party Russia

[HRHBen176]

I am curious as to the current sources of income for the living decendants of the Romanovs. Is there some money left? or are they virtually penniless and have to work for their money?

What is HIH Grand Duchess Maria, Pretender to the Russian throne, source of income? Does she recieve some money from the Hohenzollerns? (She was married to a Prussian prince who fathered her child)

What about the members of the Romanov Family Association? Any money there? They have that Romaov Fund for Russia, is that just a charity in name or is there actual $$$ behind it?

Thanks!

[lexi4]

There is a topic about Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna of Russia on here that might answer some of your questions. It is on page 2 of this section. The RFA money goes to charity.

[Orlov]

would anyone care to discuss the current grand duchess maria's claim that she is the rightful heir to the throne? First of all she decends from grand duke cyril (her grandfather). Cyril betrayed the tsar and his royal oath.Had the tsar not abdicated cyril would have been executed. this removes all of cyril's line from the throne. Furthermore the royal sucsession laws states clearly that the throne can't pass through a woman. Finally her son george is in line to a throne but not the russian throne.He is the great grandson of kiesar wilhelm the second.

[Warren]

This argument goes round in circles. This thread is full of detailed discussion of the points raised in your post.

[branchg]

Originally Posted by HRHBen176

I am curious as to the current sources of income for the living decendants of the Romanovs.

Most of the Romanovs are not rich at all, with the possible exception of the Ilinyskys in the U.S., since Grand Duke Dimitri Paulovich married an American heiress, Audrey Emery. Ironically, Dimitri Ilinsky, who is the grandson of the Grand Duke, is the senior line male morganaut of the family.

Grand Duchess Maria sold her long-time residence in Madrid and lives in a spacious, but not particularly luxurious, apartment there. Presumbly, her half-sister, Helen Kirby, who inherited her father's fortune after his tragic death by the Nazis, supported the family for years, but that money has probably dwindled considerably.

[chancellor]

Full report of Tour Russian / English , please note the references to her title in the memorial stones etc

http://russianwelfare.org.au/pdf/imperial.pdf

http://www.riuo.org/SUCCESSION_ENGLISH.pdf

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Chancellor

[SIDOROFF]

Originally Posted by chancellor

http://www.kro.su/ Monarchist political party Russia

The President of this party Sergei Yuryevitch Glazyev was a University groupmate and a friend of Emira Ludmila Ivanovna Fadeeva-Abbasi, a relation to His Imperial Majesty Emperor Lev Lvovitch of All the Russias. And, of course, this party does not support any of the Hohenzollern or Holstein-Gottorp pretenders.

[SIDOROFF]

Originally Posted by chancellor

The oldest Russian Imperial organisation still thriving today, is the Russian Imperial Union Order.

I remember in 2000 we had to deal with the RIUO. The President of the RIUO told his subsidiary in Russia - the "Vserossijskij Monarxicheskij Centr" ("Всероссийский Монархический Центр") to deal with us. In the telephone conversations the VMC Youth Committee President Akunov told me: "You know, we support not only Mariya Vladimirovna". Then, when we met with Akunov and his deputy Kanaev, they told us: "You know, we are against Mariya Vladimirovna." In that small time span, they broke with the RIUO. Their main idea, as we got it, was that the Monarch and all ruling elite should be of German origin. Their main symbol was the swastica. My Master told them: "Not only are you undecided on whom you support, you are also pure German nazis." Then he walked out of the meeting. As we got it, at that time they were undecided and began promoting the Oldenburg dynasty later. However, they seem undecided on a specific Oldenburg individual till nowadays.

[SIDOROFF]

Originally Posted by Iverieli

After that since 1801 when Russia annexed Georgia, Bagrationi Dynasty ruled Georgian Kingdom as king of Kings not as Princes. :)

Georgia was part of Russia from the 16th century on. In 1801 the last King of Kartli-Kakhetia (Eastern Georgia) was ousted by Russia. Since then some Bagrations became Princes in Russia.

[branchg]

The senior line was absorbed into the Fifth Book of Noblility and allowed princely rank, which was in violation of the Treaty guaranteeing the King's descendants the right to be Prince/Princess of Georgia, not just noble princes under the Tsar.

[silex]

Good Morning Everyone,

I am writing about the article about the Grand Duke Kirill, it's a good article, very explicite. Today, may I know who is the heir of the Russian Romanov Throne, and what he or she is doing and where.

Best regards to everyone , from your friend,

Silex...

[Benjamin]

12 May 2008
The Grand Duchess of Russia, Maria Vladimirovna, is expected to visit Malta this summer as part of the 10th anniversary celebrations of the International Charity Society (ICS)...
Rest of article can be found here

[chancellor]

19 мая 19 мая Саранский отдел РИС-О торжественно отметил 9-ю годовщину своего существования.

Saranskiy Division of the Russian Imperial Order celebrates

Conference “the monarchy:truth against the invention'' Russian Imperial Union Order

15 марта 2008 г. Конференция «Монархия: правда против вымысла».

29 февраля 2008 г.Царский Дом Грузии обрел нового Главу

PETROPAVLOVSK IMPERIAL SOCIETY

3 февраля 2008 г. Визит Его Светлости Светлейшего князя Георгия Александровича Юрьевского в Санкт-Петербург.

21 января 2008 г.Встреча Предстоятеля Русской Православной Церкви с принцессой Катариной Карагеоргиевич

[Marengo]

This thread has reached 10 pages, time to close it and open a new one. Thanks to all who participated and we hope you in the 3rd thread Grand Duchess Maria Wladimirovna and the other claimants to the Russian throne, which you can find here.