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Old 09-20-2013, 01:27 AM
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^Given recent history being a person of European German descent would in fact trigger a major backlash.

Why not the heiress daughter of a wealthy and politically connected oligarch?
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Old 09-20-2013, 01:34 AM
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Royals are supposed to be (or at least appear to be) politically neutral. Marrying the daughter of a politician kind of goes against that.
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Old 09-20-2013, 02:47 AM
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True, but a politically connected wife is different; especially if in fact wifey has a contact who would put a proposal to put the Vladimirs on a newly established throne.
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Old 09-20-2013, 07:55 AM
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Oh my, now you have my imagination going crazy with your hilarious suggestion!!!! I would pay to see something like this - hahaha!!!!!
Seriously that could be a pay per view special. Two of the strongest royal personalities ever going head to head over a d-list royal wedding! Lol
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Old 09-20-2013, 01:56 PM
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... [snipped] Gabriella Windsor has more recent Russian connections. Her paternal grandmother, Princess Marina, was the daughter of Elena Vladimirovna - Elena's brother was Cyril Vladimirovich, who is Maria's grandfather. Elena and Cyril were the grandchildren of Alexander II. Gabriella is also descended from Olga Constantinovna through her paternal grandmother's father.

The catch with Gabriella, however, is that while she is related to royals and belongs to the house of Windsor, she herself is not royal and doesn't hold any royal titles, which could put a damper on the marriage being dynastic. Somehow, I can't see the Queen (or her future successors) granting Gabriella a title so that she could make a dynastic marriage with a member of a non-reigning house.
Your observations are accurate. Lady Gabriella could be a suitable match even without the necessary title because Prince Michael is very very well-received by Russian higher-ups.
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Old 09-20-2013, 02:04 PM
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Your observations are accurate. Lady Gabriella could be a suitable match even without the necessary title because Prince Michael is very very well-received by Russian higher-ups.
Agreed. However, i've also heard that the Kents are not very wealthy. I wonder if that would play a role. Good title no money. Or good money with no title
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Will I get banned for suggesting that he marry his mother?
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Will I get banned for suggesting that he marry his mother?
Oh, I hope not. It is the most funny and reality driven comment.
The clowns are in town when this is discussed. A nice young man with a useless title, son of an overbearing mother, with no concept of his real future and wanting happiness for him. He is between a rock and a hard place, so to speak. He should marry whom he wants and will be happy with. Nobody is rushing the gate for this marriage, as there is no possibility he will be anything more than what he does, today. He seems kind and nice, he should marry for love and be happy.
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Old 03-05-2014, 04:37 PM
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maybe a bagration? :)

but this time a royalty bagration and not nobility bagrationi as her grandmother was :)
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Old 03-05-2014, 05:41 PM
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what does it mean?

:)

should he marry only a equal statused girl? :)
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Old 03-05-2014, 05:43 PM
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He was supposed to marry an equal, but many doubt that.

And besides all he has been dating Rebecca for some years.
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but his grandmother was not equal also :) she was not a royalty bagration :) she was a nobility bagration of mukhranin line :)
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Old 03-05-2014, 05:51 PM
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Yes, it's contradictory that matter.

On their official site probably there are more explanations about their dynasty, rights and beliefs.

Here is the link:

House of Romanov. Main page.
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but his grandmother was not equal also :) she was not a royalty bagration :) she was a nobility bagration of mukhranin line :)
Correct. But Maria's father, Grand Duke Vladimir, declared the Bagration-Moukhrani branch of royal rank in 1946 via decree. When he married Leonida, he declared his marriage was equal under the Pauline Laws, but the other surviving dynasts at the time disagreed and stated she was morganatic.

Maria is morganatic under the old rules and so is Georgi. She can say whatever she wants, but the fact is he can marry whomever he wants at this point.
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Old 03-05-2014, 05:55 PM
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it can be contradictory in russia and in europe but in georgia mukhranian bagrations are not contradictory at all :)

they never were royals :) they were always the nobility family serving the georgian kings :)

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you are right but who gave the right to vladimir to recognize a nobility of georgia into a royalty ? :) under the georgian laws they are nobility and will stay that way and no matter what european or russian would do :)
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Vladimir considered that she could “correct” the status of his wife vis-à-vis the Imperial law, but, being only a cadet of the dynasty, he could not make this reform valid. Thus Prince Vladimir’s marriage was considered morganatic, and his spouse and daughter never enjoyed true Russian dynastical honours, being entitled to the name of Serene Princes Kirillovsky only.
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true. a cadet branch and non dinastical offshoot line of mukhrani :)
so it mean russia has no legitimate prince?
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Old 03-05-2014, 06:18 PM
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My personal opinion is that Russia has no real legitimate heir now.

Well, Maria Vladimirovna considers herself as a legitimate heir of Russian throne.

I am not very much against her, but she and Georgi should do more in order that people know them better.
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Old 03-05-2014, 06:36 PM
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if there is no legitimate heir than why you support her? very strange.
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Old 03-05-2014, 06:39 PM
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No, I don't support her in the sense of real acceptance of her claims. But I don't hate her either.

I really don't know much about them. I mean real facts of course.
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