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Old 03-11-2009, 12:17 PM
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May the Romanovs now finally rest in peace.
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Old 03-11-2009, 03:42 PM
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That's good. I've hope that the family will be together soon.
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Old 03-12-2009, 01:45 AM
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DNA proves Bolsheviks killed all of Russian czar's children - CNN.com
I think they should given the same rights to a royal funeral and buriel as the rest of their family was.
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Old 08-01-2009, 01:29 AM
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I've moved discussion of the burial to a new thread in the main Russian Imperial Family forum.
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Old 08-26-2009, 04:35 PM
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Fragments of the pots that contained acid used on the Imperial Family have been found

Archaeologists are apparently still exploring the area around the old Koptyakovsky road (where the bodies were found) in Yekaterinburg for more clues as to what happened in July 1918. Yesterday, their efforts paid off when they found acid jags which contained the acid used in an attempt to dispose of the bodies and, in case the bodies were ever found, to make the verification impossible (as by the technology of the time).
The scientists believe that there can be no mistake as to the purpose of the acid in the vessels as the fragments were found in the same area as the bodies of the family. They also bear Japanese seals, as was typical for the acid jags sold in those times. So far, fragments of no less than 3 jags have been uncovered, each approximately 3-4 feet tall.
This complies with the accepted story of what happened to Nicholas II and his family in July of 1918.
The archaeologists continue searching the area in attempt to trace the actions of the assassins of the Imperial Family and cover any ‘white spots’ left.

Some fragments were found with the remnants of Alexei and Maria, however there were too few and small to carry out any analyses.

Russian-speaking members can read article about the new findings here.
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Old 11-29-2009, 07:20 PM
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It seems odd to me that they released the images of the original bones found, but few, if any, of the new bones. Also, since the bones were mere fragments, isn't it possible that these new remains were actually those of people who grew to adulthood and were planted in the forest after their deaths? Has anyone looked into possible age fraud of these new remains?
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Old 11-30-2009, 04:43 PM
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Also, since the bones were mere fragments

There's a reason why the bones are in small fragments, and that is because the bones have been in the grave for over nine decades.
Over much time, the bones deteriorated from sulfuric acid and weather conditions.

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isn't it possible that these new remains were actually those of people who grew to adulthood and were planted in the forest after their deaths?

The theory about the bones being planted is not true. There's no evidence to prove that. These bone fragments have been accurately identified through the DNA evidence. Michael Coble from the world's largest mitochondrial DNA testing laboratory, along with the rest of the scientists spent huge amounts of time identifying these remains according to the reports that the Red Guard unsuccessfully tried to burn the remains of two of the dead children before burying them. This information matched well with the condition of the bones.

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Has anyone looked into possible age fraud of these new remains?
There's no lying about the age of these bones. The scientists, used DNA to determine how old the remains are. The bones have been under the same soil for over 9 decades.You should watch the Finding Anastasia show that I've posted in the "Romanov children" thread. The whole documentary is all about the scientists observing and solving everything about the 44 bone fragments discovered on July 2007.
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Okay... So... What gives here? Why is Georgy, of all people, now calling for a re-examination of the Ekaterinburg remains? What could
possibly be his motive?

From Today's Interfax
24 February 2010, 16:18
House of Romanovs wants royal remains to be re-examined

Moscow, February 24, Interfax - The House of Romanovs has said it wants to re-examine what is thought to be the remains of the last Russian Tsar Nicholas II and his family found in Yekaterinburg.

"Unfortunately, there is too much confusion in this case and some serious errors were made when the Yekaterinburg remains were being identified," Prince Georgy Mikhailovich, the son of the Romanovs' House head Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna, told Interfax on Wednesday.

"Many of the facts uncovered suggest that the Commission was staging a political show for a date, rather than working to establish the truth," Romanov said.

The remains were buried in St. Petersburg in 1998 in haste and in defiance of the opinion of the Russian Orthodox Church and the House of Romanovs, he said.

"No satisfactory answers have been provided to the ten questions, formulated by independent scholars and referred to the Commission back in 1998 by the late Russian Orthodox Patriarch Alexy II.

Meanwhile, those were questions, which interested not only experts, but also people and millions of believers. The Church needed to console these people instead of leaving them with a feeling of having been deceived. The Commission did not care. There was a farce instead of an act of repentance and purification," he said.

The remains' authenticity must be further studied, Romanov said.

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Why is Georgy, of all people, now calling for a re-examination of the Ekaterinburg remains? What could possibly be his motive?
His motive is to publicly align himself with the Orthodox Church's view, just as his mother has done previously.
It's not clear whether Georgi is questioning the 1994 Gill report of the DNA analysis, the 2009 University of Massachusetts Medical School 'Genomic Identification' report, or both.
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Sorry guys, I've removed some posts that have no relevance to the 2009 'Genomic Identification' report (the subject of this thread).
Discussion of scientific and medical errors can be done in Members' Corner.

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Old 09-13-2010, 09:45 PM
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I note that one of today's Russian news reports now insists that the discovery of these possible Imperial remains had actually taken place back in 2008...

Amateur search group claims grave of Russia's 'man in iron mask' found | Culture | RIA Novosti

So the question then arises..

Why has it taken two full years for this particular news story to find its way onto the pages of Russia's newspapers?
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