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Old 06-16-2005, 10:47 AM
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Default The Qajar Dynasty and Imperial Succession after the Pahlavis

Does anyone know who is the current claiment of the Qajar Dynasty of Iran?
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Old 06-16-2005, 11:34 AM
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Never heard of this dynasty. Could someone enlighten me about this dynasty?
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Old 06-16-2005, 12:47 PM
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Hi La La,
This is very brief, they were the last rulers of Perisa of turish desent (Iran) from the late 1700's to 1925 but had lot's of problems with corruption the russians, brits had more control over the gvt. and were overthrown with help of Reza Kahn (pre Pahlavi name change) who was the last shah's father. I'm sure others will fill in with more information.
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Old 08-15-2005, 10:25 AM
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this is a flash which contains a brief gallery of how Ghajar Princesses looked
http://www.womeniniran.net/archives/FMP/mashgallery.htm
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Old 08-15-2005, 11:42 AM
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Thanks, cute girl. Is it only in Farsi?
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you're welcome. the english version of the site http://www.womeniniran.net/english/ unfortunatly doesnt have this flash,but if found an article about one of Gajar princesses http://www.womeniniran.net/archives/EH/000938.html
if you have trouble with playing or meaning of the flash I'd be happy to help.

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unfortunatly doesnt have this flash,but if found an article about one of Gajar princesses http://www.womeniniran.net/archives/EH/000938.html
if you have trouble with playing or meaning of the flash I'd be happy to help.
Thank you cute girl. For some odd reason, I can't read more of the articles. Nothing shows up when I click on "articles", on the menu. The only option that is working for me is "home" which navigates me back to the main page. But thanks anyway. :o

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if you seek information about Ghajars in enligh,hope this link helps you
http://www.qajarpages.org/
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Old 08-25-2005, 10:55 AM
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http://www.chn.ir/en/news/?id=5507&section=2

http://Puran Dokht, the Queen Who Pr...Egalitarianism Puran Dokht, who ascended to the throne of Sassanid Empire despite the male dominant trend of the time, was a preacher of sexual egalitarianism
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Here is another site which provides a brief bit of information on the Qajar rulers of Persia. The arts benefited during their rule. . . a very elaborate style of portraiture developed. Hence unusual, stylistic paintings of Shahs, princes, and various court ladies. I believe what is considered classic Persian Music today also to be from the Qajar era. This extensive family lives all over the world and has produced some very gifted writers, scientists, doctors and scholars.

www.angelfire.com/az/Kadjar/page5.html
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Hello,

I just read the question: "who is the current claimant of the Qajar Dynasty of Iran?".


His name is Prince Ali Qajar. He is descendant of Mohamad-Hassan Mirza and not Ahmad Shah, as his Majesty had no son.

Mohamad-Hassan Mirza, was Ahmad Shah’s brother and was the crown prince.


As put in other answers, this dynasty was replaced by Pahlavi Dynasty on 1925.

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One book that I read on Iran was a bio done by the Shah's (twin?) sister that mentions the Qajars as still part of the Iranian nobility. There is a paragraph on a scandal involved her or her son and one of the members of that Qajar family I think in an airport or involving controlled substances. I'll have to find that book but I think is called the Man in the Mirror or something like that.
I found it in an used books store and there was little mention of the Princess' sister in law Farah.

Qajar Dynasty

Qajar Kings:
Agha Mohammad Khan 1794 - 1797
Fath'Ali Shah 1797 - 1834
Mohammad Shah 1834 - 1848
Naser o-Din Shah 1848 - 1896
Mozaffar o-Din Shah 1896 - 1907
Mohammed Ali Shah 1907 - 1909
Ahmed Shah 1909 - 1925

The Qajar class structure

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Old 12-21-2005, 12:51 AM
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The family is still around: Qajar (Kadjar) News

Anyone in France that would like to attend to the Kadjar party in June 2006? Oops, I forgot, is for family and friends only.
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The Qajar era was full of misery for Iranian people due to some unqualified kings.They lost a big part of Iran during wars with Russia.During that time, religion influenced the politics so much.
Qajar kings' passions were traveling and women. They made big harems but no developement in industry and economy .
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Anyone knows if there was any attempt to return to Iran after the Shah & Family went into exile?
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Hello,

I just read the question: "who is the current claimant of the Qajar Dynasty of Iran?".


His name is Prince Ali Qajar. He is descendant of Mohamad-Hassan Mirza and not Ahmad Shah, as his Majesty had no son.

Mohamad-Hassan Mirza, was Ahmad Shah’s brother and was the crown prince.


As put in other answers, this dynasty was replaced by Pahlavi Dynasty on 1925.

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HIH Prince Soltan Ali Mirza Qajar to be precise.
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HIH Prince Soltan Ali Mirza Qajar to be precise.
Ahh . . ok

I had read something on Wikipedia showing that HIH Prince Soltan Ali Mirza Qajar has been the head of the Imperial family since 1988, while HIH Mohammad Hassan Mirza II Qajar has been the Heir Presumptive since 1988.

Here's what I found: Qajar dynasty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Interesting that there are two lists there . . . .
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You guys mustn't forget the Qajar princes are around 50'000 now all over the world and are not considered as "princes" by Iranians. However, the families considered as nobility were the families that had power during the Qajar era and the Qajar family itself is thus for sure considered as part of the aristocracy but not really "princes".
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You guys mustn't forget the Qajar princes are around 50'000 now all over the world and are not considered as "princes" by Iranians. However, the families considered as nobility were the families that had power during the Qajar era and the Qajar family itself is thus for sure considered as part of the aristocracy but not really "princes".
Yes they are plentifull,the Qajar dynasty,especially HIH Prince Soltan's grandchildren,they were all over the place,it looked like a kindergarten,and by the sheer noise you would have believed it was one....grin...

But I've send some pics to Marengo to post here a while ago of the Head of the Dynasty and other Qajar Princess & Princesses as
they stayed with a friend of mine,and opened an exhibition of Art during the Qajar Reign,during their annual family gathering which was
in The Netherlands this summer.

I know he's a very busy man,but maybe,petêtre,vielleicht,he can find a spare sec to post them still.......
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Default Pahlavi succession question

Just a question regarding the succession of the Pahlavi claim to the Peacock Throne.

As it stands now, HIH Crown Prince Reza Pahlavi is the head of the Pahlavi family. Since he has 3 daughters, the next in line would be his brother HIH Ali-Reza Pahlavi (who is unmarried).

After them, who's next?
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