Duke Carl and the Royal House of Württemberg 1: Ending 2022

[SirGyamfi1]

Marianne van Dam published on her eccellente website the pictures she took of the guests attending the funeral:
https://www.royaltyguide.nl/special/2022-07-02 funeral wurttemberg.htm
Not only the Duchess of Montpensier attended the funeral, but also the eldest half-sister Princess Marie Christine of Liechtenstein (aged 98) did.

The pictures are nice and the family was well represented.

The Duchess of Montpensier should be sitting wearing a mask ?
How was the relationship between Furst Hans Adam of Liechtenstein ans the late Duke Carl ? Next to him the first Lady of Liechtenstein , his daughter in law , born Princess of Baviere.

I’m quite sure Fürst Hans Adam had good relations with the late Duke Carl, but I think the closest link between them would be Sophie the hereditary Princess of Liechtenstein whose sister Marie-Caroline who is married to one of the late Duke’s sons and Duke Carl’s older sister is married to one of the Liechtenstein Princes.

 

[Stefan]

The Liechtenstein Princely Family had always a good connection to the House of Württemberg. The Fürst, Fürstin and Herediatry Princess attended the Wedding of Duke Friedrich in 1993 and Duke Carl hosted the wedding of his niece Marie to Prince Gundakar of Liechenstein at Friedrichshafen Castle in 1989. He then escorted the late Fürstin Gina in which was oine of her last public appearanced. Also at the funeral of Duke Friedrich the Fürst and the Hereditary Princely Couple both attended.

And the Württemberg Family attended the wedding of Alois and Sophie in 1993.

 

[Iza Borowiec]

The Liechtenstein Princely Family had always a good connection to the House of Württemberg. The Fürst, Fürstin and Herediatry Princess attended the Wedding of Duke Friedrich in 1993 and Duke Carl hosted the wedding of his niece Marie to Prince Gundakar of Liechenstein at Friedrichshafen Castle in 1989. He then escorted the late Fürstin Gina in which was oine of her last public appearanced. Also at the funeral of Duke Friedrich the Fürst and the Hereditary Princely Couple both attended.

And the Württemberg Family attended the wedding of Alois and Sophie in 1993.

So it's possible that in the future Duke Wilhelm may marry Princess Marie-Caroline as they move in the same social circles

 

[SirGyamfi1]

So it's possible that in the future Duke Wilhelm may marry Princess Marie-Caroline as they move in the same social circles

I highly doubt that if you’re referring to Princess Marie-Caroline of Liechtenstein? If you are, I highly doubt he will ever see her as a love interest.

 

[Iza Borowiec]

I highly doubt that if you’re referring to Princess Marie-Caroline of Liechtenstein? If you are, I highly doubt he will ever see her as a love interest.

You never know. Anyway, he shouldn't have problems with finding a wife. There are plenty of Catholic aristocrats or maybe commoners. He can recognize his marriage as dynastic.

 

[SirGyamfi1]

You never know. Anyway, he shouldn't have problems with finding a wife. There are plenty of Catholic aristocrats or maybe commoners. He can recognize his marriage as dynastic.

If he wants to marry dynastically, there are plenty of high noble or royal Catholic potential brides to marry and I highly doubt he will ever see Marie-Caroline as a potential marital partner. But if he wants to marry non-dynastically, he would probably marry a Catholic.

 

[maria-olivia]

On the Annoucement of the late Duke Egon of Wurttenberg , Duke Wilhelm was annouced as Head of the House.
Among his siblings , Duc Allbrecht and Duchess Sophie and Patrick de la Lanne Mirriees
who was Princess Margarethe natural Son. (Noblesse et Royautés)

 

[SirGyamfi1]

Was anyone aware that after Duke Ferdinand of Wurttemberg passed on last two years ago, there was a massive auction of items (600) paintings, objets d’art?

 

[Marc23]

Was anyone aware that after Duke Ferdinand of Wurttemberg passed on last two years ago, there was a massive auction of items (600) paintings, objets d’art?

I remember the auction.

 

[SirGyamfi1]

I remember the auction.

Unfortunately that entire branch of the family is extinct. That was a lot of items to dispose off, and that branch was lucky to have taken all their goods from Carlsruhe and the East, but the castle was destroyed.

 

[JR76]

Unfortunately that entire branch of the family is extinct. That was a lot of items to dispose off, and that branch was lucky to have taken all their goods from Carlsruhe and the East, but the castle was destroyed.

It's a pity. The castle was quite special and really at the centre of the town. Quite funnily like it's namesake in Baden.

 

[Kataryn]

If he wants to marry dynastically, there are plenty of high noble or royal Catholic potential brides to marry and I highly doubt he will ever see Marie-Caroline as a potential marital partner. But if he wants to marry non-dynastically, he would probably marry a Catholic.

If a dynast decides to marry non-dynastically, he doesn't care what faith, nationality or family the woman he loves has, it's her he wants, not what she brings into the marriage. But I understand why you think that: the same belief helps in a marriage.

 

[SirGyamfi1]

If a dynast decides to marry non-dynastically, he doesn't care what faith, nationality or family the woman he loves has, it's her he wants, not what she brings into the marriage. But I understand why you think that: the same belief helps in a marriage.

Majority of his immediate relatives are Catholic and his grandmother is an Orléans and they have been Catholic for much longer than his father’s family. Just because someone marries non-dynastically doesn’t mean that faith, type of family or even religion will be compromised. Same belief helps you have mentioned which I didn’t consider, but my point was that families that have been Catholic for centuries don’t always make compromises for that. For example in the Habsburg family today, it isn’t really an issue of dynastic marriage but that the bride should be Christian, Otto might have compromised on the dynastic issue, but the Christian part, certainly not.

It's a pity. The castle was quite special and really at the centre of the town. Quite funnily like it's namesake in Baden.

They have another castle in Germany, I think, but what will happen to it since almost all the members of that branch are childless, I don’t know. Maybe the main line will inherit it?

 

[maria-olivia]

Duchess Sophie is still alive !

 

[SirGyamfi1]

Duchess Sophie is still alive !

when I say that branch is extinct, I mean from a dynastic successor point of view. None of the males of that branch children.

 

[Stefan]

Unfortunately that entire branch of the family is extinct. That was a lot of items to dispose off, and that branch was lucky to have taken all their goods from Carlsruhe and the East, but the castle was destroyed.

Actually the Carlsruhe Estate first belonged to another branch of the Family who became extinct in the male line in 1903. It later was given to Duke Albrecht Eugen the second son of Duke Albrecht but from his 3 sons only one married but was divorc ed after 10 years of marriage.

 

[Stefan]

They have another castle in Germany, I think, but what will happen to it since almost all the members of that branch are childless, I don’t know. Maybe the main line will inherit it?

They don't have a Castle. They only Castles still owned by the Württembergs are the 3 Castles owned by the Main line (Friedrichshafen. Altshausen and Monrepos).

 

[SirGyamfi1]

They don't have a Castle. They only Castles still owned by the Württembergs are the 3 Castles owned by the Main line (Friedrichshafen. Altshausen and Monrepos).

What about Schloss lindach

 

[Stefan]

What about Schloss lindach

It seems to have been sold in 1958 after the death of Duke Albrecht Eugen and his wife.

 

[SirGyamfi1]

It seems to have been sold in 1958 after the death of Duke Albrecht Eugen and his wife.

Ohhh! At least the head of the House and family have three family properties

 

[maria-olivia]

I read this thread since its beginning, how interesting.
Stefan you posted a lot and I like the way you support this Royal House.
Post 407 was already your post 243 ...

 

[Biri]

The engagement was announced between Duchess Marie-Amélie of Württemberg (b.11 March 1996) [second of three children and elder daughter of late Duke Friedrich Philipp of Württemberg (1961-2018) & his wife, Princess Wilhelmine of Wied (b.1973)] & Baron Franz-Ferdinand von Feilitsch (b.21 November 1997) [youngest of three children and only son of Baron Louis-Ferdinand von Feilitsch (b.1967) & his wife Johanna "Hanna" Strabolakos, a novelist (b.1965)] on 8 September.

The future bride's elder brother Wilhelm (b.13 August 1994) is now the Duke of Württemberg, succeeding their paternal grandfather, Duke Carl, who died in June.
She has also a sister Sophie-Dorothee (b.19 August 1997).

The groom-to-be has two elder sisters Elena (married to Alexander Turi) and Sophia.

Sources: https://royalmusingsblogspotcom.blogspot.com/2022/09/duchess-amelie-of-wurttemberg-to-marry.html
https://www.angelfire.com/realm/gotha/gotha/wurttemberg.html

 

[Stefanie]

The engagement was announced between Duchess Marie-Amélie of Württemberg (b.11 March 1996) [second of three children and elder daughter of late Duke Friedrich Philipp of Württemberg (1961-2018) & his wife, Princess Wilhelmine of Wied (b.1973)] & Baron Franz-Ferdinand von Feilitsch (b.21 November 1997) [youngest of three children and only son of Baron Louis-Ferdinand von Feilitsch (b.1967) & his wife Johanna "Hanna" Strabolakos, a novelist (b.1965)] on 8 September.

The future bride's elder brother Wilhelm (b.13 August 1994) is now the Duke of Württemberg, succeeding their paternal grandfather, Duke Carl, who died in June.
She has also a sister Sophie-Dorothee (b.19 August 1997).

The groom-to-be has two elder sisters Elena (married to Alexander Turi) and Sophia.

Sources: https://royalmusingsblogspotcom.blogspot.com/2022/09/duchess-amelie-of-wurttemberg-to-marry.html
https://www.angelfire.com/realm/gotha/gotha/wurttemberg.html

Another fiance who is younger than the bride. This might become uso in the future. But nevertheless I find him a bit young. He' s not even 25....

 

[noc]

Another fiance who is younger than the bride. This might become uso in the future. But nevertheless I find him a bit young. He' s not even 25....

Interestingly, some would say that when you know-you know. In any case, I am sure this will be a joyful event for the family

 

[eya]

The engagement was announced between Duchess Marie-Amélie of Württemberg (b.11 March 1996) [second of three children and elder daughter of late Duke Friedrich Philipp of Württemberg (1961-2018) & his wife, Princess Wilhelmine of Wied (b.1973)] & Baron Franz-Ferdinand von Feilitsch (b.21 November 1997) [youngest of three children and only son of Baron Louis-Ferdinand von Feilitsch (b.1967) & his wife Johanna "Hanna" Strabolakos, a novelist (b.1965)] on 8 September.

The future bride's elder brother Wilhelm (b.13 August 1994) is now the Duke of Württemberg, succeeding their paternal grandfather, Duke Carl, who died in June.
She has also a sister Sophie-Dorothee (b.19 August 1997).

The groom-to-be has two elder sisters Elena (married to Alexander Turi) and Sophia.

Sources: https://royalmusingsblogspotcom.blogspot.com/2022/09/duchess-amelie-of-wurttemberg-to-marry.html
https://www.angelfire.com/realm/gotha/gotha/wurttemberg.html

And a picture with her fiancee from back June

https://www.instagram.com/p/CeqM5Czga-F/

 

[Biri]

Another fiance who is younger than the bride. This might become uso in the future. But nevertheless I find him a bit young. He' s not even 25....

Uuuhhh, very big difference... Marie-Amelie is just 20 months older.

 

[Somebody]

Another fiance who is younger than the bride. This might become uso in the future. But nevertheless I find him a bit young. He' s not even 25....

How wonderful that this couple found each other so young in life!

And in my family, most of the grooms/husbands are between 1/2 year and 1 1/2 years younger than their bride/wife. So, while it might be a little less common, I don't think this age difference stands out that much.

 

[Stefan]

And a picture with her fiancee from back June

https://www.instagram.com/p/CeqM5Czga-F/

From where do we know that is him?

 

[eya]

Duchess Marie-Amélie of Württemberg with her fiancee Baron Franz-Ferdinand von Feilitsch at the Wedding of the Count Philipp von Stauffenberg and Maira Tolardo-Mooser this weekend in Bamberg Cathedral.


https://images.bild.de/634c45fd17e5f94cadf4d071/a970220290a0122a1d36daee59432d9e,ab1374aa?w=992

 

[SirGyamfi1]

Amelie’s wedding will be another big celebration for the family.