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Old 10-14-2012, 10:45 PM
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I should add that Timo's widow has adopted several adults.
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Old 10-15-2012, 01:22 AM
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Theophana and her husband were divorced. Moreover, Timo, who had little contact with his children while they were growing up,as they were raised by their maternal family, was in need of money. Hermann Montanus paid Timo for a surname, just as Robert Lichtenberg did when he was adopted by Marie Auguste of Anhalt
Might be all true. But I can't see "Frederic" being invited by the Ascanians to any occasion while here, obviously, there is some sort of friendship, at least recognition.

But then, at least for me as a German commoner, the Wettins of Saxony are of no consequence any more and the way the late Margrave dealt with the succession showed me he had no respect for ancient principles as well. So good riddance now, after Albert is dead.
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Old 10-15-2012, 11:07 AM
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Might be true? It is true. Timo was what we call the black sheep of the family. In the 1950s, he married a butcher's daughter, had two kids, and she died young. He had no real relationships with his two kids until much later as he spent a lot of time in a mental hospital.

Alexander became the heir only after the death of Prince Johannes of Saxe-coburg and Gotha, who was the son of Mathilde. He was the designated heir when it became apparent that Max Emanuel and Anastasia were unable to have children, and Albert's marriage was morganatic.

In 1997, Max Emanuel, Anastasia, Albert, his wife, Prince dedo (and also signed for his brother Gero and their stepmother, Virginia), Timo's widow and the three sisters of Max Emanuel, signed a family pact, legal document that named Alexander as heir, and head of the family. Timo's children were not party to the pact because Rudiger and Iris have never had dynastic rights.

Alexander enhanced his position by marrying Gisela of Bavaria. He is well educated and a successful businessman. Rüdiger has been in jail. his first wife killed herself, and has never been considered a dynast.
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Old 01-16-2013, 05:53 PM
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Prince Daniel of Saxony (b.23 June 1975) [oldest of three sons of late Prince Rudiger of Saxony (b.1953) & his late first wife Astrid, nee Linke (1949-1989)] & his wife Sandra, nee Scherer (b.1978) had their first child, Anna-Catharina Sophie, in Radebeul on 13 January.

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Old 02-27-2014, 08:47 AM
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Georg Timo Prince of Saxony, Duke of Saxony...

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Might be true? It is true. Timo was what we call the black sheep of the family....
Well, that certainly ist true, but you should look at his life in and after the war, most of which is known only to his family.

Timo, as his Father and brothers, did not fight in WWII as Hitler issued a "Prinzenerlass" which meant that no members of former reigning houses were allowed to fight (He was afraid of public opinion for once).

Timo worked instead as a Red Cross helper and was serioulusly injured when a house collapsed after a bombing raid and he lay under the rubble for a long time. I should mention that most members of former ruling houses did not offer their lives to help the "commoners" then. (some of this even made it to the German press in the 50s where careful research still finds it)

Through their war experiences this whole generation was damaged in some way and we should not judge them as we did not live in these dark times. After the war they tended to use their sudden freedom and to get carried away a bit.

Greetings from Germany,

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The dynasty of the House of Wettin has been ruling uninterrupted from 1089 to 1918 for 829 years.
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Old 02-27-2014, 09:51 AM
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A blog with some information and pictures from 2013 about Prince Georg of Saxony:

Prinz Georg von Sachsen | corona

The blog seems to be based on an article of BILD.

Since 2009, the prince studied Economics in Aberdeen. He works as a salesperson at a store of brand T.M.Lewin. According to the article he would be finished in a few months. They expect him to plan a future in Dresden.
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Old 02-27-2014, 09:58 AM
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Margrave Albert, who briefly succeeded his brother Maria Emanuel, before his own demise a few months later, allegedly reneged on his promise in 2002 to demorganitize his cousins marriages- and make Rudiger his dynastic heir. However, in his last interview before his own death in October 2012, Albert claimed the title of Margrave of Meissen and the headship of the Saxon royal house. According to Prince Rudiger, Albert named Rudiger as his heir (see www.haus-wettin.de) before his death. Albert issued a public written statement in 2002, that the headship of the Saxon royal house should pass to Prince Rudiger and his sons- to avoid extinction and preserve the agnatic line. Based on this statement, Rudiger is now Margrave of Meissen, but Karl-Friedrich, Prince of Hohenzollern also claims the title as dynastic grandson of Albert's aunt, Prince Margaret of Saxony, relying on the Semi-Salic principle, while Alexander Affif-Gesaphe claims the headship based on the dynastic family ruling in 1997. In the unlikely event of a restoration, the people of Saxony would have to vote of the issue.
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Old 03-23-2014, 03:29 PM
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The future King Frederick Augustus II had been an officer in the War of the Sixth Coalition.
However, he had little interest in military affairs.

King Johann I of Saxony did not like his daughter-in-law, Crown Princess Louise, bicycling in knickerbockers.
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Old 03-23-2014, 05:48 PM
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Just a small correction...


Quite wrong. You mean King Georg I. Crown princess Luise of Habsburg-Toskana was the wife of later King Friedrich August III.
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Old 05-10-2014, 05:36 AM
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Succession in the Albertinian branch of the house of Wettin
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As there are some misconceptions about the succession in our house I would like to straighten them out:

1. Since 1918 Germany and Austria-Hungary have abolished all privileges of our
aristrocracy. There is no official "succession" anymore.

2. Unofficially succession and belonging to the aristocracy is handled by the
German "Adelsrechtsausschuss", who - alas - being formed by the lower and middle
aristocracy, has nothing to do with our former royal families.

3. There is an agnatic and very alive branch of the royal family of Saxony which
is living in Saxony and has therefore every right of succession, being
descended through King Friedrich August III of Saxony - Prince Ernst Heinrich
of Saxony - Prince Georg Timo of Saxony to Prince Rüdiger of Saxony and his children
and grandchildren. Everybody else claiming to be in the succession or speaking for the
house of Wettin is either adopted or does not belong to that family or house at all.

4. That Prince Georg Timo of Saxony did marry morganatically is of no avail,
because when he married, the marriage laws of modern democratic Germany
applied. There is no "morganatic" marriage anymore. Common law family relations apply.

5. Unfortunally (this applies only to Germany) after 1918 aristocratic titles like
Prince, Herzog (Duke), Graf (Count), Freiherr (Baron) etc. were added to the
surname of a person, if they so wished. This means that there are some
princes, counts etc. around who never belonged to the aristocracy but were
adopted or bought their titles. Most of them therefore have no succession rights
or rights of inheritance.

6. As always and everywhere all comes down to the question of money.
When the GDR joined the BRD, some aristocratic families came into a
sudden and unexpected inheritance of land and goods formery belonging to
them. This also applies to the house of Wettin. No wonder some very odd
new "heirs" and ways of "inheritance" cropped up.
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Royal Musings: Prince Alexander talks about Saxony settlement

Royal Musings: Saxony government settles clams with members of former royal family
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Old 07-22-2014, 09:15 PM
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It was interesting to learn that the former royal family will receive sheet music and eleven pieces of furniture.
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Old 08-15-2014, 08:45 PM
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i cant believe my eyes and ears bloodline being know. I believe my dads from the direct unbroken male bloodline from Johannes Georg Friedrich Augustus I, elector of Saxony 1763 - 1806, king of Saxony 1806 - 1827, Grand Duke of Warsaw Married SuSanne Czartoryjski ( a polish countess ) in aprox 1782. he did so against the wishes of the family who declared the marrige Morganitic. my last name is ( Von Der Morganatischen Ehe von Sachsen ) From the morganitic marrige of Saxony ! It has been abreviated to what was on Michae's birth certificate yes Michael had a brother named August and they were the sons of the morganitic marrige of Saxony. I have read that the albertine line has been extinct for many years and now the complete family has been lost due to ( miss management of records ) I have some records I'd like to make known ... no disrespect intended. the ( Extinct family bloodline of the true family has been living in Australia alive and well ) although my son and daughter were born in 2000 and 2002 they are the true wettins and they even out rank me as they are not married .... would like to hear from somebody as to this incredibaly alarming information.... i take it that their just happy to have their history lost in space.
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