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Old 06-14-2011, 08:44 AM
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Did prince Rasso (and son Wolfgang) ever comment on this? I suppose his branch would have been the eventual heirs. Still, it seems like a logical decision, I am happy that the family won't be turning into another one with disputes like the Bourbons, Hohenzollerns and Savoys.
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Old 09-12-2011, 03:40 PM
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HRH Prince Rasso of Bavaria passed away early this morning, aged 85.

He was born on 24 May 1926, the youngest child of Prince Franz (himself son of King Ludwig III and Queen Maria Theresia) and his wife Princess Isabelle, née Princess von Croy.
He has been married since 1955 to Archduchess Theresa of Austria-Tuscany, with whom he had seven children.

Eurohistory: + Prince Rasso of Bavaria (1926-2011)
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Old 10-15-2011, 11:45 AM
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A video of Duke Franz from last year.
He was in Romania and is here addressing a Red Cross function.
It's not very exciting, but is an opportunity to see the Duke at a [small] event and hear him speak to the audience in English.

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Thank you for sharing the video. The gentle grace and infectious smile displayed by Duke Franz (King Francis II) is remarkable. While I watched the tape I had an odd prescient feeling. I could not put my finger on it so I watched the video again.
As an artist one learns to pay attention to details and nuance. When I carefully viewed the video I remembered another image that I had recently worked with. Coincidentally, we have been publishing a series of essays about cultural history. In the latest article we used the exquisite Maurice de la Tour portrait of Charles Edward Stewart (Bonnie Prince Charles) as the introductory illustration (click here).
Reviewing the video I thought I saw a certain similarity between the two images. But when I analyzed some of the images frame-by-frame I saw something I thought was remarkable. Although there were other places; at the 3 min/09 or 10sec point the sight was extraordinary.
There are some problems comparing the portrait of Prince Charles Edward and the video of his relative Duke Franz. Of course the age of the man in the portrait and the man in the video is quite different and Prince Charles is not wearing eyeglasses and Duke Franz is not wearing a wig. However, the similarity in facial expression, likeness, and the more intangible projection of personality and regal bearing is unmistakable to me. Even after some 260 years something ethereal seems to lace the two images together that transcend genetics.
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does Prinz Ludwig Heinrich the son of Prince Luitpold have girlfriend? if he does, then who is she? how about if he get married to commoner, is that legal according to royal house of wittlesbach? because his parents must wait too long until their marriage became legal according to the law of royal house
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'A bit of a love story, a bit of a mystery'
For almost 500 years their love has been frustrated, their desire to be together thwarted by politics, parents and, most recently, by provenance. Now they are together again, only briefly, at the National Gallery of Canada, where a mystery that helped to keep them apart has finally been settled by technology and some curatorial detective work.
They are Ursula von Weichs and her lover, Duke Ludwig X of Bavaria, and they were painted by German artist Barthel Beham in 1531. The paintings hung side by side in the duke's palace and then, after his death in 1545, their trail was lost. At some point they re-entered art history and came into the collection of the royal family of Liechtenstein, where they remained until just after the Second World War, when the prince of Liechtenstein decided to sell some of the family's vast collection. The prince kept the portrait of Duke Ludwig, and sold the portrait of Ursula to the National Gallery in Ottawa.
A funny thing happened on the way to Canada: Poor Ursula lost her identity, and for many years, perhaps centuries, was thought to be a man. Oh, the indignity.
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However, the similarity in facial expression, likeness, and the more intangible projection of personality and regal bearing is unmistakable to me. Even after some 260 years something ethereal seems to lace the two images together that transcend genetics.
Difficult thing, this. Because how much Stuart is in Bonnie Prince Charlie and how much in Duke Franz? Is it the Stuart side after all which defines the type of men they are?

Mary Queen of Scots was half-French, a quarter Stuart and a quarter Tudor.
Her only son brought more Tudor-blood into the mix due to his father's ancestry. He married a Danish princess. Their two surviving children Charles I. and Elizabeth of the Palatinate, queen of Bohemia gave 19! children to Mary Queen of Scots as grandmother.

Both Franz and Bonnie Prince Charlie came from the line of Charles I.
Today Franz is the most senior Catholic descendant of Mary Queen of Scots and her son James I./VI.while the Queen (who is a descendant of Elizabeth Stuart/ of the Palatinate/of Bohemia) is the most senior Protestant descendant according to the rules of succession to the English and Scottish thrones.

But when we look for bloodlines, I have yet to see a current living European Royal except maybe the Russians who has no blood connection to James I/VI. and thus to the Stuarts. Eg. the Bourbons: the Orleans-line is descended from Elisabeth Charlotte of Orleans, who was great-granddaughter of James I./VI. (via Elizabeth Stuart) as a princess of the Palatinate. Her uncle's (himself a grandson of James I./VI of the Palatinate) daughter married into the next senior Bourbon-line, the Condés/Contis.
Another line is the Habsburg-Lothringen: each and any of them has a senior Catholic claim to the British throne (but then Duke Franz of Bavaria is first), as their ancestor Franz of Lorraine was a Stuart descendant. As were the female descendants of Emperor Joseph I (of Habsburg) due to his marriage to a Stuart descendant which in the end led to most of Saxony's Royalty being descendants of Mary Queen of Scots.

You get the picture....

In the end, I guess is simply chance if shared genetics lead to shared features. Or so.
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But when we look for bloodlines, I have yet to see a current living European Royal except maybe the Russians who has no blood connection to James I/VI. and thus to the Stuarts.
Every member of Russian Imperial House living today is descendant of Queen Mary of Scots...Sophia Dorothea von Wuerttemberg,wife of Emperor Paul is a descendant of James I via his daughter Elizabeth and since all her descendants were members of the Imperial House,they are connected to the Stuarts,descended from them in precise... :)

Here is the line

King James I/VI of England-Scotland (1566-1625)
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Princess Elizabeth of England (1596-1662)
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Princess Sophie von der Pfalz (1630-1714)
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Princess Sophia Charlotte von Hannover (1668-1705)
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King Friedrich Wilhelm I in Prussia (1688-1740)
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Princess Sophie of Prussia (1715-1765)
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Princess Sophia Dorothea von Brandenburg-Schwedt (1736-1798)
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Princess Sophia Dorothea von Wuerrtemberg (1759-1828)
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Every member of Russian Imperial House living today is descendant of Queen Mary of Scots...Sophia Dorothea von Wuerttemberg,wife of Emperor Paul is a descendant of James I via his daughter Elizabeth and since all her descendants were members of the Imperial House,they are connected to the Stuarts,descended from them in precise... :)
Thank you very much for that info, Marc. It's very much appreciated.

What fascinates me is that from the 19 great-grandchildren of Mary Queen of Scots, her and Elizabeth of England's throne went to the descendants of the youngest daughter of her granddaughter - so all and sundry had a higher claim except their religion, but nothing came out of it.
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Elisabeth in Bayern has become patron of the new exhibition "Fans from Bavarian Castles" which runs
from 08 February till 20 December 2012 and will become the new head of the fan museum in Bielefeld,
Germany. On pic 2 she presents a fan Ludwig II of Bavaria (1845-1886) had presented to Empress
Elisabeth of Austria ('Sissi', 1937-1898).



** Pic 1 ** Pic 2 ** translated article **
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Royal Musings: The Duke of Bavaria and his partner
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HRH Duke Franz and Thomas Greinwald.
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Old 02-16-2012, 09:11 PM
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I'm just curious but what family relation is HRH Franz , duke of Bavaria and HRH prince max, duke in Bavaria to empress Elisabeth of austria who was a Bavarian princess of this royal house?
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Franz and Maxs grandmother, Duchess Marie Gabrielle in Bavaria was the niece of the Empress Elisabeth. Through the male line the relationship was very distant. Ducjess Marie Gabrielle was also the sister of Elisabeth who married King Albert I of the Belgians and was the grandmother of King Albert II, making the Belgian King and Duke Franz second cousins.
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Marriage of Princess Felipa:

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Princess Felipa (the younger daughter of Prince Leopold and Princess Ursula) and Christian Dienst will marry on 12 May 2012 at the Pilgrimage Church of Wies (Wieskirche in German); a reception will follow the ceremony, and will be held at Hohenschwangau Castle.
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Wedding of Felipa of Bavaria to Christian Dienst today in Germany at the Rokoko-Wies church near Steingaden.

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Bride with her father Leopold, Prince of Bavaria

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Bride and groom

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Duke Max in Bavaria, Duchess Elizabeth in Bavaria, daughter Elizabeth Princess in Bavaria and her husband Daniel Terberger

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Attendees too Princes Felipa's wedding:

Prince Leopold with wife Princess Ursala (bride's parents)

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Karl-Theodor Freiherr von und zu Guttenberg with wife Stephanie Grafin von Bismarck-Schonhausen


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Fritz Wepper with wife Angela Prinzessin von Hohenzollern

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Manuel Prinz von Bayern with Princess Anna von Bayern
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Alexander Furst zu Schaumburg Lippe mit Nadja FŸrstin zu Schaumburg Lippe

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Princess Felipa, Bavarian Princess, Weds Christian Dienst In Germany (PHOTOS)
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Attendees too Princes Felipa's wedding...
You accidently mixed up the captions,poor Karl Theodor von und zu Guttenberg now has the looks and wife of that Schaumburg - Lippe boy.... ...oh dear...

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