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Old 08-20-2016, 05:42 AM
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I now understand nothing about Schönburg-Waldenburg line...

I thought that it was extinct,but have found that there is Ulrich, Fürst von Schönburg.

In genealogy sites he is only listed as Fürst von Schönburg, not as Fürst von Schönburg-Waldenburg which is more confusing.

In genealogy sites one can't find anything about the adoption, so was he adopted son of his father or adopted son of Princess Anna Luise von Schönburg-Waldenburg,later Schwarzburg-Rudolstadt?

If he is not adopted son of his father then the line of Schönburg-Waldenburg is still there.

Anyone with more info?
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Old 08-20-2016, 05:56 AM
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I now understand nothing about Schönburg-Waldenburg line...

I thought that it was extinct,but have found that there is Ulrich, Fürst von Schönburg.

In genealogy sites he is only listed as Fürst von Schönburg, not as Fürst von Schönburg-Waldenburg which is more confusing.

In genealogy sites one can't find anything about the adoption, so was he adopted son of his father or adopted son of Princess Anna Luise von Schönburg-Waldenburg,later Schwarzburg-Rudolstadt?

If he is not adopted son of his father then the line of Schönburg-Waldenburg is still there.

Anyone with more info?
First it seems that the offical Titles of the Fürst was Fürst of Schönburg, Count and Lord of Schönburg, Count and Lord zu Glauchau and Waldenburg etc.
Then Fürstin Anna Louise of Schwarzburg adopted his father Prince Wilhelm as her heir.
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In 1960 Prince Günther, the 4th Fürst died. He had no issue. His closest male relative was shown as below. In his family there was also his cousine Anna-Luise, Fürstin von Schwarzburg-Rudolstadt née Prinzessin von Schönburg-Waldenburg (1871-1951). She was the general heiress of her husband's inheritance. As the couple had no issue, she decided to adopt her nephew Prince Wilhelm, a son of her brother Prince Ulrich-Georg. She knew that her nephew was a heir to the Fürst von Schönburg-Waldenburg, so she destined him as her general heir.

The current lineage is as follows:

Otto Victor, 1. Fürst von Schönburg-Waldenburg (1785-1859)
x
Henriette Gräfin Reuß zu Köstritz (1755–1829)
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Georg

Georg Prinz von Schönburg-Waldenburg (1828–1900)
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Luise Prinzessin zu Bentheim-Tecklenburg (1844–1922)
=
Ulrich Georg

Ulrich Georg Prinz von Schönburg-Waldenburg (1869–1939)
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Pauline Prinzessin zu Löwenstein-Wertheim-Freudenberg (1881–1945)
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Wilhelm

Wilhelm Prinz von Schönburg-Waldenburg* (1913–1944)
x
Marie Elisabeth Prinzessin zu Stolberg-Roßla (1921–1975)
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Ulrich, the current 6. Fürst von Schönburg-Waldenburg (1940)

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Adopted by his aunt Anna Luise Fürstin von Schwarzburg-Rudolstadt née Prinzessin von Schönburg-Waldenburg to become the heir of her inheritance. The adoption had nothing to do with the Schönburg-Waldenburg line of succession but all with the Schwarzburg-Rudolstadt inheritance. In the end there was not much to inherit: in 1945 the DDR looted her properties by declaring it as Volkseigentum ("Property of the People"). Anna Luise Fürstin von Schwarzburg-Rudolstadt née Prinzessin von Schönburg-Waldenburg had one small comfort: she was allowed by the DDR to remain in her castle in Sondershausen (picture) until her death.
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Old 08-20-2016, 08:20 AM
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Thank you so much both of you for this clarification.That explains things.

Unfortunately, Fürst Ulrich has only one son Prince Kai-Philipp Wolf(born in 1969) who is divorced since 2001, so I guess if something doesn't change soon extinction of Schönburg-Waldenburg line is looming. :-(
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Thank you so much both of you for this clarification.That explains things.

Unfortunately, Fürst Ulrich has only one son Prince Kai-Philipp Wolf(born in 1969) who is divorced since 2001, so I guess if something doesn't change soon extinction of Schönburg-Waldenburg line is looming. :-(
I have looked up: after Fürst Ulrich and his son Prince Kai-Philipp Wolf, there are male line descendants in French Polynesia but I am not sure if the House Schönburg-Waldenburg has the requirement of marriages to be standesgemäß (befitting one's social class). There are also a lot of children born out of wedlock.

So to see the only legally born males are:

Maria Karl Leopold Salvator Ernst Anton Joseph Franz Xaver Friedrich Bonifacius Benno Jaime von Schönburg-Waldenburg (1902–1992)
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Varaiterai a Neti (1915)
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Matahi-Georges-Leopold von Schönburg-Waldenburg (1951)

Matahi-Georges-Leopold von Schönburg-Waldenburg (1951)
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Sévérine-Thea Hirshon (1947)
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Manu-Ura Lewis von Schönburg-Waldenburg (1975)
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Old 08-20-2016, 01:45 PM
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I have looked up: after Fürst Ulrich and his son Prince Kai-Philipp Wolf, there are male line descendants in French Polynesia but I am not sure if the House Schönburg-Waldenburg has the requirement of marriages to be standesgemäß (befitting one's social class). There are also a lot of children born out of wedlock.

So to see the only legally born males are:

Maria Karl Leopold Salvator Ernst Anton Joseph Franz Xaver Friedrich Bonifacius Benno Jaime von Schönburg-Waldenburg (1902–1992)
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Varaiterai a Neti (1915)
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Matahi-Georges-Leopold von Schönburg-Waldenburg (1951)

Matahi-Georges-Leopold von Schönburg-Waldenburg (1951)
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Sévérine-Thea Hirshon (1947)
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Manu-Ura Lewis von Schönburg-Waldenburg (1975)
They are also born out of wedlock, as their parents married only after their birth, so I don't think they are considered dynasts.

Their first child Maria was born in 1939, while her brother Matahi-Georges-Leopold von Schönburg-Waldenburg was born in 1951 and their parents married only in 1955. They divorced later in 1971.

I also assume that things would be similar if the children were born during their marriage.

Prince Friedrich Victor, father of Karl Leopold and grandfather of Matahi-Georges contracted second marriage with noblewoman Franziska Maison von Lobenstein. Although she was from Maison von Lobenstein noble family whose nobility was gained in 1817 it wasn't enough for Schönburg-Waldenburg family and the marriage was treated as morganatic.She had to be created Countess von Bug and children out of this marriage were also Freiherr/Freiin von Bug, although they only had one daughter Maria who married Rugard von Rohden.
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Old 08-20-2016, 02:12 PM
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Just found this article which may explain why this line is considered extinct.

http://royalmusingsblogspotcom.blogs...ntess-bug.html

Alicia de Bourbon left a note to her husband that their six month old son was not his child.

She may have written that simply because it was the truth or she may have lied to keep the child when she ran away from him.
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Alexander of Schönburg-Glauchau attended the opening of the Oktoberfest 2017 in Munich, Germany on September 16:


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Alexander of Schönburg-Glauchau participated in the 'Markus Lanz' TV show in Hamburg yesterday, November 27:


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Maya Flick, née Countess of Schönburg-Glauchau died yesterday (27.01.2019) at the home of her mother, Countess Beatrix. She had battled cancer fro some time.
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An article about the Maya Flick

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...r-aged-61.html

Diane von Furstenberg says her Good bye

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Maya Flick, née Countess of Schönburg-Glauchau died yesterday (27.01.2019) at the home of her mother, Countess Beatrix. She had battled cancer fro some time.
https://www.bild.de/unterhaltung/roy...5526.bild.html
Does anybody know where Countess Beatrix lives in Munich? I mean, does she live a castle or...?
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Does anybody know where Countess Beatrix lives in Munich? I mean, does she live a castle or...?

Probably she has a flat somewhere in Munich. The Family also lived in Munich before Gloria got married Perhaps it is still the former Familyhome. I was surprised to read that she lives in Munich as i also had heard that lives at Emmeram Castle with her daughter Gloria but who knows perhaps she spends ome time there and some in Munich.
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The funeral of Maya Flick/Countess of Schönburg-Glauchau will take place on Saturday, February 2nd, the family announced yesterday. There will be a High Mass and only the immediate family will be present at the burial at an undisclosed cemetery in Munich.

While the funeral will be closed to the public, there will be a requiem and reception at the Brompton Oratory in London on March 7, as well as a requiem at the Basilica minor of Wechselburg, Germany, on March 18.


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Family and friends were seen arriving for the funeral of Maya in Munich today, February 2:


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Princess Gloria attend the service to honor her sister Countess Maya von Schönburg-Glauchau in London.

https://www.instagram.com/p/But4_qNlPlj/


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Here are some more photos of the guests:


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** bunte: Bewegende Szenen vor der Kirche: Der Adel trauert mit ihr um Schwester Maya **


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On Monday, March 18, the requiem at the Basilica minor of Wechselburg, Germany, was held for Maya Flick/Countess of Schönburg-Glauchau in presence of family and friends:


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Alexander of Schönburg-Glauchau attended the "Bild 100" summer party in Berlin on September 9:


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