Princely House of Schwarzenberg

**Marengo** · #1 11-27-2007, 06:54 PM

The Princely House of Schwarzenberg

Arms of the Princes of Schwarzenberg

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**MAfan** · #2 10-16-2008, 01:49 PM

According to Paul Theroff's site, Karl Johannes Furst zu Schwarzenberg and his ex-wife Theresa, nèe Grafin zu Hardegg, remarried on 25 July 2008. They were previously married between 1967 and 1988.

**Marengo** · #3 11-21-2008, 02:39 AM

The Tsjech court has rejected the demand of princess Elisabeth of Schwarzenberg she wanted to get two family castles back, that fell into the hands of the state during WWII. The properties are Schloss Krumau (Česky Krumlov) and Schloss Frauenberg (Hluboká nad Vltavou), who both are on the UNESCO world heritage list. The two castles were confisquated by the Nazi's and later went to the Tsech state. The princess claimed this happened illigaly, the court says it has not.

More information in German here.
Source in Dutch: monarchen.nl

**Marengo** · #4 01-08-2009, 06:52 AM

The family genealogy the online Gotha: Schwarzenberg

Mardam's site has the Schwarzenberg family mausoleum: Schwarzenberg mausoleum

And from wikipedia:

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chwarzenberg (Czech: ze Švarcenberka) is the name of a Frankish and Bohemian aristocratic family which was first mentioned in 1172. A branch of the Seinsheim family (the non-Schwarzenberg portion died out in 1958) created when Erkinger I of Seinshein acquired the Frankish barony of Schwarzenberg, the castle Schwarzenberg and the title Baron of Schwarzenberg, in 1405–21. At this time they also possessed some fiefdoms in Bohemia. In 1599 the Schwarzenbergs were elevated to Counts and in 1670 to Princes. The House of Schwarzenberg came into extensive land holdings in Bohemia in 1661 through a marriage alliance with the House of Eggenberg. In the 1670s, they established their primary seat in Bohemia. Until 1918 their primary residence was in Český Krumlov, Bohemia (now in the Czech Republic).

Read more here: House of Schwarzenberg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Ducii · #5 07-28-2009, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Marengo

The Tsjech court has rejected the demand of princess Elisabeth of Schwarzenberg she wanted to get two family castles back, that fell into the hands of the state during WWII. The properties are Schloss Krumau (Česky Krumlov) and Schloss Frauenberg (Hluboká nad Vltavou), who both are on the UNESCO world heritage list. The two castles were confisquated by the Nazi's and later went to the Tsech state. The princess claimed this happened illigaly, the court says it has not.

More information in German here.
Source in Dutch: monarchen.nl

These castles were proprety of primogeniture, weren't they? I read something about it in the book - it was interview with Karel (Carl)Schwarzenberg.. Very interesting book. He said his opinion on situation in the Czech Republic in 1989, 1997, 2001 and 2008 (the book has 4 parts), he also spoke about his family,...

Wisteria · #6 07-28-2009, 05:55 AM

Can anyone give me any information about Prince Karl´s sister Maria, or if he had any other brothers and sisters?

**MAfan** · #7 07-28-2009, 06:31 AM

Prince Karl has two sisters and one brother:
- Marie Eleonora, born in 1936, married in 1969 to Leopold-Bill von Bredow, three children (Vendeline, b. 1970, Leopold, b.1971, married and no children, Felix, b.1973)
- Friedrich, born in 1940, married in 1984 to Regula Brigitta Schlegel, two children (Marie-Helene, b.1987, Ferdinand, b.1989)
- Anna Maria, born in 1946, married in 1980 to Elmar Frhr von Haxthausen, two children (Caspar, b.1980 and August, b.1985)

Ducii · #8 09-01-2009, 03:59 AM

Log In | Facebook This is official profile on facebook of Karel Schwarzenberg..

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Log In | Facebook This is official profile on facebook of Karel Schwarzenberg..

of course you must have a profile there also...

Marc23 · #9 09-18-2009, 10:03 AM

Part of the story in German about the "Vampire Princess" Eleonore von Schwarzenberg:

YouTube - Die Vampirprinzessin - Teil 1

Dalps09 · #10 10-15-2009, 10:34 PM

The current Fürst zu Schwarzenberg and his wife have three children (Johannes [born 1967], Anna [born 1968, married Peter Morgan] and Karl Philipp [born 1979, married Anna Gfn von u. zu Eltz gennant Faust von Stromberg])

However, in 1987/88, their youngest son changed his name to Prinzhorn "upon adoption by Thomas Prinzhorn (who is purportedly his natural father) 1987/8" (Theroff Files, House of Schwarzenberg)

So who's Karl Prinzhorn's father? Karl Schwarzenberg or Thomas Prinzhorn?

**MAfan** · #11 10-16-2009, 10:20 AM

As far as I know, Prince Karel and Princess Theresa, née Countess von Hardegg, married in 1967; during their marriage three children were born; one of them, the last, was the product of a relation between the Princess and Thomas Prinzhorn.
Later, in the 1980s, the Prince and the Princess divorced, and she marry Mr. Prinzhorn, who adopted Karl Philipp (his natural son).
Finally, I don't know why and how, in July 2008 Prince Karel and Therese married again.
So, Karl Philipp Prinzhorn is the natural son of Thomas Prinzhorn.

**Stefan** · #12 10-16-2009, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by MAfan

As far as I know, Prince Karel and Princess Theresa, née Countess von Hardegg, married in 1967; during their marriage three children were born; one of them, the last, was the product of a relation between the Princess and Thomas Prinzhorn.
Later, in the 1980s, the Prince and the Princess divorced, and she marry Mr. Prinzhorn, who adopted Karl Philipp (his natural son).
Finally, I don't know why and how, in July 2008 Prince Karel and Therese married again.
So, Karl Philipp Prinzhorn is the natural son of Thomas Prinzhorn.

Princess Therese was never married to Thomas Prinzhorn. She had an terribel accident around 15 years ago but she has recovered from it but still difficulties walking. And yes the youngest son is the son of Princess Therese and Mrs. Prinzhorn. this was actually the reason he wad adopted by him and took the surname Prinzhorn.

**MAfan** · #13 10-16-2009, 11:40 AM

Yes, you're might, I've mistook; they only have had a love story.
Which kind of accident did Princess Therese have?
And do you know why did they divorce, since they have remarried after 20 years from the divorce? Maybe because of the story with Prinzhorn?

**Stefan** · #14 10-16-2009, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MAfan

Yes, you're might, I've mistook; they only have had a love story.
Which kind of accident did Princess Therese have?
And do you know why did they divorce, since they have remarried after 20 years from the divorce? Maybe because of the story with Prinzhorn?

It was a skiing accident where she almost died. She written a book about her recovery called "Mein Weg zurück ins Leben" (My way back to life). Don't know the reason for the divorce but in an Interview last year she said that the divorce was a bad thing because she and her husband always where in love.

Marc23 · #15 12-23-2009, 02:17 AM

It seems that her son "Erbprinz" Johannes von Schwarzenberg is engaged to Diana Orgovanyi-Hanstein...

**MAfan** · #16 12-23-2009, 03:27 AM

yes; according to Kurier.at, they're going to marry the next 20 March 2010 in Neuburg, Styria; after the wedding, they will held a reception in Schloss Murau, that belongs to the Family.

**Marengo** · #17 12-23-2009, 03:41 AM

Apparently they both like nature and I believe the bride and groom are both into forestry: Schwarzenberg, mediatized Austrian-Hungarian family - marriage - alt.talk.royalty | Google Groups

**MAfan** · #18 12-23-2009, 03:54 AM

That's a good thing; as far as I know, Schwarzenberg Family still owns a lot of lands and forests.

**Warren** · #19 12-23-2009, 07:18 AM

Schloss Murau, Styria, Austria
property of the Schwarzenbergs

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