Prince Ernst August of Hanover current events 1: March 2008-

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[iceflower]

New pics of Prince Ernst August - I really enjoyed these
pics, not only because it's Ernst August, but also because
of the interaction with the dog and the relaxed behaviour

Ernst August of Hanover enjoys a lunch at Cafe de Flore in Paris
with his dog and a friend. Paris, France, April 2nd, 2008

** Pic 1 ** Pic 2 ** Pic 3 ** Pic 4 ** Pic 5 **

[Lindy]

I thought he gave up drinking because he was on the brink of death near the time of Prince Ranier's funeral.

[giov]

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What a disaster!

Originally Posted by Lindy

I thought he gave up drinking because he was on the brink of death near the time of Prince Ranier's funeral.

Me too.
I think he did gave up immediately after his disease, but now...

[Tosca]

Dogs love you just the way you are...

[thekla]

I never believed that he gave up drinking totally - but these pictures indicate that he might well be on the way back to heavy addiction habits. Poor Caroline, I was wondering what might have happened that she has aged so visibly within a short time - maybe we can see the reason in these pictures.

[foursox]

Originally Posted by Lindy

I thought he gave up drinking because he was on the brink of death near the time of Prince Ranier's funeral.

as far as i know, he should not be drinking alcohol full stop!
kym
land of oz

[BurberryBrit]

It's nice to see royals at ordinary places like Flor and Deux Magots. Regarding the drinking, as long as he didn't polish off the entire bottle, I'm cool. I don't know what his specific ailment was, but if he had liver or pancreatic disease, then yes, he should not be drinking.

[kelly9480]

I think it was tacitly acknowledged that he was battling an addiction to alcohol, which led to his illness in 2005 in the first place. He certainly commented that his drinking was putting his health at risk and harming his chances of seeing his daughter grow up.

[BurberryBrit]

Originally Posted by kelly9480

I think it was tacitly acknowledged that he was battling an addiction to alcohol, which led to his illness in 2005 in the first place. He certainly commented that his drinking was putting his health at risk and harming his chances of seeing his daughter grow up.

Well, if he was an alcoholic, then no alcohol is acceptable. Sounds like he "fell off the wagon." I'm just surprised he would drink in public if it was known he was an alcoholic.

[kelly9480]

He got so drunk at Felipe's pre-wedding dinner that he couldn't attend the wedding itself the next morning (though he reportedly attended the luncheon afterwards), and this was after it was made clear that he had a definite problem managing his alcohol intake.

[lazuli]

Indeed, BurberryBrit, he looks almost human...just like us!

[giov]

Originally Posted by kelly9480

I think it was tacitly acknowledged that he was battling an addiction to alcohol, which led to his illness in 2005 in the first place. He certainly commented that his drinking was putting his health at risk and harming his chances of seeing his daughter grow up.

I remember when he said that, in a video interview, while he was doing rehabilitation exercise after his illness.
He looked so determined to give up drinking, after his alcoholic pancreatitis, that's why I am so surprised now.
I hope Caroline helps him not to go over the limit again.
Anyways, I am sure, as long my memories and my source are right, that he gave up drinking for a period after his illness.

Originally Posted by kelly9480

He got so drunk at Felipe's pre-wedding dinner that he couldn't attend the wedding itself the next morning (though he reportedly attended the luncheon afterwards),

Those two days were a disaster!
They said he was so drunk that he couldn't even walk after the wedding luncheon, and two men had to carry him away.
I remember an article by Countess Olghina de Robilant on Ernst at the wedding.
She also wrote that king Juan Carlos was mad with Ernst for his behaviour.

[foursox]

Those two days were a disaster!
They said he was so drunk that he couldn't even walk after the wedding luncheon, and two men had to carry him away.
I remember an article by Countess Olghina de Robilant on Ernst at the wedding.
She also wrote that king Juan Carlos was mad with Ernst for his behaviour.[/quote]

i know quite a lot about alcoholism due to work. alcohol for ernst is out! once an alcoholic, always an alcoholic. it is now medically recognised as a disease and ernst would have been told all about it. he should be attending AA meetings regularly. caro would know all about it from the specialists etc. the trouble is, if she likes her alcohol also, she would have a hard time telling ernst not to do as she is doing. she probably did not know he was out to lunch and drinking. it was mentioned by someone that they hoped he didn't finish off the bottle of red at lunch. does anyone think he wouldn't. once an alcoholic takes that first drink, it causes a craving and an obsession to have more, hence they cannot take that first drink. time will tell.

[Warren]

I think we have enough moralising about Ernst August and alcohol.

thanks,
Warren
Germany-Austria moderator

[DenisP]

On Ernst August's wikipedia entry it says he has the official title "Prince of Great Britain and Ireland"

Does anybody know why this is since the UK's full name is the "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland"

And also the fact that the Republic of Ireland doesn't recognise royal titles,

I realise the title is a relic from the past, but should it not be amended?

[Stefan]

Originally Posted by DenisP

On Ernst August's wikipedia entry it says he has the official title "Prince of Great Britain and Ireland"

Does anybody know why this is since the UK's full name is the "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland"

And also the fact that the Republic of Ireland doesn't recognise royal titles,

I realise the title is a relic from the past, but should it not be amended?

because they are descending from King George III.

[Emperor Wilhelm IX]

Originally Posted by Stefan

because they are descending from King George III.

From what I have read however is the Hanoverians are no longer legally entitled to be called Princes of Great Britain because the 1917 LP issued by George V limited the title of Prince of the UK to the grand children in the male line of the sovereign and by the time LP was issued they were far removed from decent of a British sovereign. But I don't think Buckingham Palace recognizes them as British princes nor have they really done anything to stop them from using the title. I think they merely tolerate it.

[Warren]

There's no point in being legalistic about the use of particular titles, after all titles were supposedly abolished in Germany but are still in unofficial use. The title of 'Prince of Great Britain and Ireland' has been an hereditary title of the House of Hanover for the descendants of George I since 1714, and is only relevant to the House of Hanover.