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Old 02-19-2014, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by MarNoe View Post
Really, in this day and age does it truly matter? And they certainly are not by any stretch of the imagination "ruling" families. And didn't I read somewhere that in Germany titles such as "Prince" have been declared illegal? Is this true?
In Germany the former titles are now seen as part of the family name, so it figures in officials documents, but it gives the wearer no special legal status. In Austria neither the former title no the words “von” or “zu” figure in legal documents, they are not considered part of the name.

Of course they are not a ruling family, and the old laws of equal marriage have no legal standing anymore. But that cannot keep conservative people from sticking to the old traditions. It is obvious that many of the old noble families try to influence their children when it comes to the choice of spouse.

These families make sure that their children grow up in close contact with other young people from their social group. So of course love matches between them do happen. E.g. I have the impression that the match between Sophie and Georg Friedrich is based on a very strong love.

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Old 02-19-2014, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Seraphine View Post
A book by a Countess of Brühl (noblesse oblige) it's said that noble women who marry commoner loose their noble status for the time of the marrriage and are cut out of the family (if the family is still very traditional). So may be his sisters didn't want to face that - esp. because the eldest sister of the Prince don't seem to be integrated in the family (married noble, but divorced and remarried a commoner).
There was this one docu about aristo women and their hunt for aristo men, because like you said, they will lose their status if they marry "below" them. Quite sad, but on the other side, we live in post-monarchy Germany...

If the Isenburg parents are really that way, well, I´m glad that Victor gave a hoot.


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