Electoral and Grand Ducal House of Hesse (Brabant)

[randomlyKeira]

Thank you so much for the information Warren and Jo! I'll definitely look up all of your suggestions. In that family tree you gave me Jo of Palestine, I found my father, even though my mother, siblings, and I are not listed on it. That was sort of a jolt of the heart to see.

[Jo of Palatine]

If your mother has been legally married to your father and you and your siblings were born during that marriage, then you should check first this databasis: WW-Person as this is quite informative on the Hessens.

If you find your father, but no information is given about his family, you should write to the Head of the House and ask to be included in the family tree and ask which documents are necessary for this. Most data bases take the Genealogische Handbuch des Adels (GHdA) - today's Gotha - as their basis and IIRC it's the job of the Head of the House to see to it that the family trees printed there are correct and complete.

Maybe you find your father through´this again.

[amedea]

in summer 2008 magda gomes announced in the italian press her overcoming wedding with prince hanau von schaumburg..anyone knows about that? and anyone knows where this prince has a castle in Austria?

[Warren]

The correct title is Prince von Hanau und zu Horowitz, Count von Schaumburg, originally a morganatic branch of the House of Hesse (Electoral Line of Kassel).
The current 7th Fürst von Hanau, Prince Philipp, has a son Tassilo, Erbprinz von Hanau (born 1987) who may fit the bill.

[amedea]

I'm quite sure Magda's fiancè is Pr Friedrich Wilhelm Heinrich Antonius (b.Vienna 28 Feb 1956) who's divorced from his first wife and live mainly in Miami

[MAfan]

Yes, her fiancé is Prince Heinrich.

[amedea]

Dagospia reported in these days the news that magda and prince von Hanau have split up (because of some "naughty" reason..)

[Marengo]

Can I ask who Magda Gomes is? An Italian celebrity?

[MAfan]

yes, she is a showgirl

[amedea]

a showgirl of brazilian origin who became known on italian TV: with her, the austro-german gotha has, for the moment, lost very much in terms of sensuality but very little in terms of aristocratic allure

[amedea]

Are the nowadays Hesse all protestants? I know that some of the children of princess Mafalda have stayed in Vatican during the WWII..
And how about the Faber-Castell?

[MAfan]

I know that Landgrave Philipp and his siblings and parents were Lutheran, but I don't know the religion of his children...

I NOSTRI AVI • Leggi argomento - Maurizio d'Assia figlio di Mafalda di Savoia
In this site is reported that Countess Elisabeth von Oppersdorf, the daughter of Philipp and Mafalda, is Catholic. So, maybe also his brother is...

[amedea]

are Oppensdorff a mediatic family?

[MAfan]

What do you mean with "mediatic"? If you mean "mediatized", they aren't.

[amedea]

Originally Posted by MAfan

What do you mean with "mediatic"? If you mean "mediatized", they aren't.

that was mediatized, yes
thanks

[Warren]

A list of the Mediatised Houses is in the German-Austrian forum, here.

[MAfan]

Princess Floria-Franziska of Hesse attended with her son Moritz the religious wedding of Hereditary Prince Christian zu Solms-Hohensolms-Lich and Countess Christine Douglas in Lich, on 5 Spetember 2009.

Hereditary Princess Floria-Franziska & Prince Moritz
2009-09-05 wedding Solms-Douglas
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[D'Arbanville]

The mother of Princess Michael of Kent (née Baroness Reibnitz) was Mária Szapáry, a Hungarian countess. Princess Irina von Hesse's mother is Yvonne Szapáry. I read in an article that Princess M of K and Princess Irina are cousins, but I can't seem to be able to thread this relation on the net. Mária Szapáry's father, Frigyes Szapáry had three other siblings, but all died at a young age, non of them had any issues. So the relation must be at least second cousin. Does anyone know how Béla Szapáry, Yvonne's father is related to Mária Szapáry, Princess M of K's mother?

[MAfan]

Princess Michael and Princess Yvonne of Hessen are fourth cousins; both them descend from Count Josef Szapary and Countess Johanna von Gatterburg.

[D'Arbanville]

Many thanks for the missing link, they are 4th cousins indeed. Have to get used to the fact that aristocrats tend to call "cousin" everyone...:-)