Electoral and Grand Ducal House of Hesse (Brabant)

[Alexandra]

I, too, am very interested in this tragedy and have myself asked about it in another royal message board. And I remember getting answered that Cecilia was pregnant, when the plane crashed. Then a dead baby's body was found in or near the crushed plane. It seems then that Cecilia gave birth just before the accident or the baby come off out of Cecilias ripped body. Sounds horrible.
Has some other heard of this story? It is quite true as far as I know.

[Alexandra]

I try to add a couple of photos of the Hessen family.

And I am very sorry, but I don't know any more where I got the pictures from.

In the first picture are little Johanna with her uncle Ludwig and his wife.
In the second picture are the Hessen family, Donatus, Celilia and the children.

[Alexandra]

GEORG DONATUS Wilhelm Nikolaus Eduard Heinrich Karl, Hereditary Grand Duke of Hessen and the Rhine, Darmstadt 8.11.1906-Steene, Ostende 16.11.1937, married in Darmstadt (civ) 23.1.1931 (rel) 2.2.1931

Cecilie Pss of Greece and Denmark, Tatoi 22.6.1911-Steene, Ostende 16.11.1937, married in Darmstadt (civ) 23.1.1931 (rel) 2.2.1931

Children:

Ludwig Ernst Andreas, Darmstadt 25.10.1931-Steene, Ostende 16.11.1937

Alexander Georg Karl Heinrich, Darmstadt 14.4.1933-Steene, Ostende 16.11.1937

Johanna Marina Eleonore, Schloß Wolfsgarten 20.9.1936-Darmstadt 14.6.1939

[Alexandra]

At last I found this addresse:

http://www.btinternet.com/~allan_raymond/Greek_Royal_Family.htm#16.74a


"Hereditary Grand Duke Georg Donatus, his wife Princess Cecilia, two sons, Alexander and Ludwig, and his mother, Princess Eleonora, were killed in an aeroplane accident near Ostende. Princess Cecilia was eight months pregnant at the time of the crash and the baby's body was discovered amongst the wreckage. The party were on their way to CroydonAirport to attend the wedding of his brother Prince Ludwig of Hesse and by Rhine to Margaret Geddes." 5.2143 16.73

"Princess Johanna died later of meningitis. She had been adopted by her uncle Ludwig following the tragic death of her parents and siblings."

[wymanda]

Originally Posted by Alexandra

At last I found this addresse:

http://www.btinternet.com/~allan_raymond/Greek_Royal_Family.htm#16.74a


" Princess Cecilia was eight months pregnant at the time of the crash and the baby's body was discovered amongst the wreckage. "

Amazing how easy such things were back then. Today she would not have been allowed to fly that late in her pregnancy!
I've actually been surprised how much travelling Pncss Maxima is doing so late in her pregnancy.

[kelly9480]

Women are not banned from flying until the last 3 weeks, and we don't know how far into the 8th month she was.

[Alexandra]

Was it a thunderstorm, the plane got crashed? I seem to have read it was.

[Warren]

Originally Posted by Alexandra

Was it a thunderstorm, the plane got crashed?

I believe it was heavy fog, the plane was flying too low, and it crashed into an industrial chimney.

[Warren]

Originally Posted by kelly9480

I was told that the Belgian royals had changed their dynasty name to "of Belgium" around WWII, though I never found any info to back that up.

kelly9480, still investigating this. On the Belgian RF website everyone is "of Belgium", but no mention of House or Family name, or "Dynasty" name.

This is what Wikipedia says:

Royal House

The term Royal House refers to the official designation and name of a royal family instead of surname.

Unlike Europeans, most of the world's Royal Families do not have surnames: those that have adopted them rarely use them. They are referred to instead by their titles, often related to an area ruled or once ruled by that family. The name of the Royal House is not a surname, just a way of identifying individuals.


Reigning European Sovereign Houses

• Belgium: Saxe-Coburg-Gotha

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[Charles]

The fact that they call themselves Glücksburg doesn't negate the fact that they belong to the house of Oldenburg.

I can call myself anything I want, but I still being to the von Hamm family.

[grknight52]

Thanks a lot,

for these information! Knew the history of this tragic Princess’s family, but nothing for the names and date of b. of children. As well as for the (so bad) chance of 3rd child.

Special thanks to Morgaine and Alexandra!

The name of Pss in greek: ΚΑΙΚΙΛΙΑ (Καικιλια) [“AI” is diphthong, proncd as e in red]

[michelleq]

I beleive that I read that TRH Tatiana and Moritz von Hesse are divorced; yet they always seem to attend functions together (I highly commend them). If they are divorced, when did they and why? I also read that Tatiana resides at her brother, Furst Richard SWB's estate/castle. How close are the two families. Also, I believe that the Hesse's castle is now a Hotel? Please correct me if I am wrong.

Originally Posted by michelleq

I beleive that I read that TRH Tatiana and Moritz von Hesse are divorced; yet they always seem to attend functions together (I highly commend them).

They got divorced in 1974.

[berry]

Does anyone have wedding pictures of mafalda of hesse? i think she married the third time?

[Warren]

Originally Posted by berry

Princess Mafalda of Hesse: I think she married the third time?

Here are the details:
m (1) 1989 (divorced 1991) (annulled 2000) Don Enrico dei Conti Marone Cinzano;
m (2) 1991 (divorced 1999) Carlo Galdo [two children];
m (3) 2000 Count Ferdinando Brachetti Peretti [two children].

[vikestudent]

hello!
I would like to know more about royal Hesses family, as far as I know they are in Germany. Also, Who is Alexander Ludwig Hesses IV??Anyone knows???
Thankx

[juliamontague]

Originally Posted by vikestudent

hello!
I would like to know more about royal Hesses family, as far as I know they are in Germany. Also, Who is Alexander Ludwig Hesses IV??Anyone knows???
Thankx

I know Grandduke Ludwig IV. of Hesse-Darmstadt (Hesse and by Rhine) but he was not named Alexander.

[vikestudent]

What do you know about him?(Grandduke Ludwig IV) Do you have any pic of him>?

[juliamontague]

Grandduke Ludwig with his family, his wife was Princess Alice (Queen Victoria's second daughter), the children are l-r: Elisabeth (later Grandduchess Sergei of Russia), Marie on Ludwig's arm, Ernst Ludwig (later Grandduke of Hesse), Alix (later Tsarina Alexandra Feodorovna of Russia), Irene (later Princess heinrich of Prussia) and Viktoria (later Princess Ludwig of Battenberg)

[juliamontague]

Ludwig was born in 1837 and died 1892, his parents were Prince Karl of Hesse and Princess Elisabeth of Prussia. He married Queen Victoria's second daughter Alice. They had 7 children: Viktoria, Elisabeth, Irene, Ernst Ludwig, Friedrich Wilhelm, Alix and Marie.
Friedrich Wilhelm called Frittie died when he was 3 years old. He fell out of a window and didn't survive his injuries due to hemophilia. Marie called May also died in childhood. In 1878 all the children except Elisabeth had diphteria and May died on 16th November. A month later the Grandduchess Alice died from the same illness.