Ducal House of Saxe-Coburg und Gotha (Wettin)

[MAfan]

Ok, thank you for the clarification!

[Mrs Littrell]

Lovely picture of Kelly from friends wedding in 2002

http://i578.photobucket.com/albums/s...ntandKelly.jpg

[Hanna Regina]

Hereditary Prince Hubertus and his wife Kelly attended the wedding of Crown Princess Victoria and her Prince Daniel last Saturday. Princess Kelly was wearing a tiara once worn by Duchess Viktoria Adelheid

http://multimedia.ctk.cz/storage/fot...3489132/5.jpeg

[Warren]

Another photo from the wedding of Crown Princess Victoria...

-> Erbprinz Hubertus and Erbprinzessin Kelly of Saxe-Coburg & Gotha

courtesy of Tamara from RJOTWMB
.

[Vizier]

I have a question about a marriage in this family. The 1815 marriage between

Prince Ferdinand Georg August of Saxe-Coburg-Saafeld (later Ferdinand of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha)
Prince Ferdinand of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

with Pirincess Maria Antonia Kohary de Csabrag et Szitnya

led to the creation of the Saxe-Coburg-Kohary line, which intermarried with many royals and actually ruled in Bulgaria.

My question is how was this marriage NOT considered morganatic by the Coburgs and others? Princess Maria Antonia was NOT from a family that had ever ruled anywhere. Her father was just a very wealthy Hungarian Count prominent in Austrian politics (Prime Minister for a while) who was given "princely" rank around the time of this marriage. (Maybe to facilitate the marriage?) Even so, no one would say that Otto von Bismarck's children were ebenburtig with ruling houses, despite his elevation to princely rank, so why was THIS marriage accepted? Just b/c the Koharys were so rich and Maria Antonia was the heiress to this huge estate?

[Marc23]

Well,it just depends on what kind of rules this House had...for example,Lippe family had rules where many nobles were treated equal if the Head of the House gives his approval while Reuss family had rules that "no marriage with mediatized family should be denied" while some other Houses were more strict about this and some less!

For example,Countess Bertha Kinsky(later Baroness von Suttner) was a full member of mediatized House despite the fact that her mother was JUST from an untitled nobility and as such could be considered equal among Houses who just consider recognized membership as enough,but could not be considered equal by Houses who along with full membership search for minimum 8 "equal" grandparents...

[JSP]

Originally Posted by Marc23

No,they are not the same family in male line...not even distantly related in male line like for example former Duke of Cadaval and his daughters husband Duke of Anjou...both belong to the House of Capet.

That is not the case with Princes and Barons zu Fürstenberg...

Thanks for the explanation.

Even so it would be nice to have a photo of Pr. Johannes Heinrich and his family - wives, children.

[Danjel]

Originally Posted by JSP

Can someone post any photos of Johannes Heinrich and his family, please ?

He was 1st married to pss Gabrielle of Furstenbeg - 1 daughter, Pss Felicitas.

He married 2ndly Pss Mathuilde of Saxony - 1 son Pr. Johannes Albert who should have become the heir of the Saxony throne if he hadn't died from a mountain fall in 1987.

JSP

Here we go...

Johannes Heinrich, with his second wife, and with his second wife and their son

Daughter Felizitas with her mother Gabriele, Felizitas' wedding 1 and Felizitas' wedding 2

[JSP]

Thanks for the pictures, which I had never seen before.

It did close a gap on my Saxe-Coburg file.

I was a bit surprised to read "Felizitas' wedding 1 and Felizitas' wedding 2".

I wondered if she had been twice married .

But the two photos are of course from her only wedding wedding.

[MAfan]

No, Felicitas married only once, in 1987 to Sergei Trotzky; both the pictures were taken on that occasion.

[Cory]

T.H.s Hereditary Prince Hubertus and Hereditary Princess Kelly of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha Return to Germany | The Royal Correspondent

[DWC]

Prince Andreas, Grand Master of the Ducal Saxe-Coburg and Gotha House Order, has awarded the Knight's Cross to the Mayor of Coburg and the President of the German Shooting Federation. To Helmut Raab a member of the Prince's office staff for 22 years he gave the Silver Merit Cross.

Neue Presse Coburg | Herzoglicher Hausorden für OB Kastner

[Tilia C.]

Originally Posted by JSP

Thanks for the pictures, which I had never seen before.

It did close a gap on my Saxe-Coburg file.

I was a bit surprised to read "Felizitas' wedding 1 and Felizitas' wedding 2".

I wondered if she had been twice married .

But the two photos are of course from her only wedding wedding.

I haven't seen many wedding pics of SCG family members. Apart from Hubertus and Kelly, of course. As many links of this thread don't work anymore, could someone post more wedding pics of the various family members?