Titles, Surname and Protocols for the Royal Family

[BELTRANEJA]

I have read that the tradition monarchist says:

the descendants in first degree are the official princes
But the grandsons of King can not be appointed official prince while his father is not named King, then automatically have the title of Principes

They can not be appointed principes while his father does not occupy the position of the grandfather.

For example:
The children of prince Pavlo are not princes, they will be princes when el Prince pavlo will occupy the position of the grandfather.

you can say that they are princes, but they are not officials princes, they will be prince official when his father will occupy possition of King Constantine

[BELTRANEJA]

The king Constantine has a passport danish, in passport his surname is "Greece", but it is not valid in Greece.In Greece he has a "status" of foreigner, but he is a foreigner european.
The Venicilenos law removed the passport to Constantine and his family and it established several conditions, the one condition is that Constantine and his family will change their surname "Greece"
I ask:
What is passport the prince Michael?
what is his surname? Is it Greece?
He has always been able to travel freely to Greece and has a house in Patmos, this means that he has another surname other than Greece.

[Viv]

Originally Posted by BELTRANEJA

The king Constantine has a passport danish, in passport his surname is "Greece", but it is not valid in Greece.

The last thing I saw was that the family is using the name "de Grecia",
which is sort of a Latinized form of "of Greece".
Beltraneja, is that the surname the Greek authorities won't accept?

Also, the family have Danish diplomatic passports! That is, they
have a nominal citizenship of Denmark but they do not have full
citizen rights.

I wonder why they haven't applied for full citizenship of i.e.
the UK, Denmark or Spain. Are they still hoping against hope?
IMO a Greek citizenship is too delicate a matter for the time
being!

[BELTRANEJA]

Their case is unique in Europe.
Denmark is a state that is part of the organization "European Union".
The objective of the European Union is to create a Europe where citizens are moving freely through their territory and they all have the same currency, the euro (Although Denmark has not accepted the euro in other countries, France, Spain, Italy, Greece it is the currency).Any European citizen can travel through EU territory without a passport and the members states can not prohibit their entry into country.
In addition, when a citizen with a European passport travel to a non-European state, if the citizen has problems in that state, he may ask to help to the embassy of his country and if his country has no embassy, he may ask to help to the embassy of a country of the EU.
For example:
IF a person with European passport LOSEs his PASSPORT into of no-european state.
if the person stolen his MONEY AND CAN NOT GO BACK TO his COUNTRY
IF THIS COUNTRY(non-european)begin a WAR AND the person can not leave the this country,he may ask to help to a embassy of a member state and he CAN BE evacuate with the citizens of that country.
Constantine and Anne Marie have diplomatic protection of Denmark and Denmark is member of EU....
But I wonder:
If CONSTANTINE travel to a country and that country LOG IN WAR AND CLOSES THE AIR TRAFFIC AND he HAVE TO ASK TO HELP to AN EMBASSY TO LEAVE of this COUNTRY, AND only Greece is europen country with embassy in this country. Could Constantine ask to help to Greece?
It is not probable, but it demonstrates that the kings are a unique case in europe

Originally Posted by Viv

I wonder why they haven't applied for full citizenship of i.e.
the UK, Denmark or Spain. Are they still hoping against hope?
IMO a Greek citizenship is too delicate a matter for the time
being!

I think that the kings haven´t lost hope of recovering their citizenship of Greece.
Only, if the "law Venicilenos" of 1994 would be to repealed, they could recover
AUTOMATICALLY their citizenship of Greece but if they are danish citizenship it would be very complicated to recover.