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Old 07-07-2010, 06:43 PM
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This is, Prince Pavlo you can not apply the patriality law, because her Greek background was annulled in the law 94
This is not correct, legally at least. The former royal family of Greece was stripped of its nationality, but they maintain their patriality.
If your father or your grandfather was Greek national, no law can cancel this reality - patriality has nothing to do with laws. Thus, even though his father is not a Greek national, as of this writing, Prince Paul maintains Greek patriality and may apply, independently of his father and his father's status, for Greek nationality on the premise that he abide by the Constitutional requirements.
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Old 07-07-2010, 06:57 PM
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No democratic country would strip somebody's nationality!It is a shame!
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Old 07-08-2010, 04:48 AM
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I would not agree with this statement. Every Democratic country should be stripping of their nationality all those who do not respect the Law and those who defy her constitution unless the latter was imposed by a dictatorship.
Canada, Australia and the USA are said to be Democratic and are Democratic exactly because their people respect the Law and respect the Constitution.
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Give me examples of democratic countries who strip nationality to any of their citizens!
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Old 07-08-2010, 05:53 PM
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I would not agree with this statement. Every Democratic country should be stripping of their nationality all those who do not respect the Law and those who defy her constitution unless the latter was imposed by a dictatorship.
Canada, Australia and the USA are said to be Democratic and are Democratic exactly because their people respect the Law and respect the Constitution.
Only the Greek Junta made such an act! the King always respected the Law and the Constitution! He had made declarations many times, but they wanna humiliate him, sending him to apply for Greek Nationality...
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Old 07-09-2010, 01:44 PM
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They have never had the surname Glucksburg so I dont't understant why somebody could ask them to bear it.
Nobody can ask them something like that and never will.But to answer your question it would be preferable and more ''decent'' to use Glucksburg than ''Constantine de Grecia'' for example.It was tacky and made them target.They received many bitter comments after that decision.And bare in mind that by that time we had the same wretched Social party leading,like today.The Conservative party was always more friendly to them (Mitsotakis for example).
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King Konstantinos should go again to CEDO for his nationality/passport .
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Old 07-09-2010, 04:35 PM
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He was stripped of his lands, his citizenship and his passport.
He has a diplomatic passport which he travels on.
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Old 07-09-2010, 04:45 PM
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This is against human rights.He should complain to CEDO.
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He sued the European Court of Humans Rights in regards to his land ownership and got some compensation, then set up the Anne-Marie Foundation.
The European Court also ruled that Constantine's human rights were not violated by the Greek state's decision not to grant him Greek citizenship and passport until he acquires a surname, which Constantine refuses to take to date, citing the fact that his family has no surname. Additionally, he uses his royal title, citing international protocol.
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His surname is "of Greece" I presume.
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No.
He doesn't have a surname, of Greece is part of his title.
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Old 07-09-2010, 05:05 PM
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Even the King of Romania's surname is "of Romania".
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Even the King of Romania's surname is "of Romania".
And?

The Queen of Denmark has no surname, which is why King Constantine does not have one, because his family is Danish and they have no surname.

All other families have one, the swedish is Bernadotte, the british being windsor.
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Old 07-09-2010, 05:15 PM
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The Romanian King uses as Surname "of Romania" which is not the same as Windsor, Bernadotte.
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Old 07-09-2010, 05:25 PM
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Well that's his perogative, but Constantine says he has no surname because his family have no surname, which is right.
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Also there is another problem, Queen Margaret in the document published said that Glucksburg was not the surname of the Danish royal house. Queen Margaret is the only one entitled to say what is the name of the Danish royal house, and with it the Greek royal house http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/a...EENMAR1983.jpg
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I do get why he & the rest of the family wouldn't want to do it, but they can always pick a surname, his ancestors not having one is no excuse, imo.
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because it is a sign of identity , in the monarchical ideology the surnames are essential. If a person with surname Bourbon and monarchical ideology resides in a country that forbade him to carry that surname, he would assume any other nationality to retain his surname and his ideology. Identities are essential in the monarchical ideology.
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I do get that. and also that they need to use their titles, because it's really their only bargaining chip these days. All I meant was "we never had a surname" is no excuse that would stand up at any court
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