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Old 07-25-2013, 02:04 AM
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Crown Prince Pavlos is more and more present in the country and his children know Greek .
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Old 08-04-2013, 07:35 AM
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Why didn't King Constantine abdicate before the referendum that abolished the monarchy and suggest constitutional changes to limit the power of the monarch?

It seems to me that someone who did what Constantine did- sanctioning a coup by an oppressive military regime- wouldn't have a chance to be restored to power, but perhaps the monarchy in general could have been saved if the institution were reformed.
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Old 08-05-2013, 02:45 PM
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King Constantine in parliament of the United States, made a speech in which he said "this is not my government" , it is possible for you and others, it has no value, but in international law, this is known as a unilateral act with the force of law, and implied that the Crown did not considered legitimate the government . After this speech the King's position is determined by the rule of law in force in Greece, the colonels did not abrogated the constitution and therefore the position of the monarch is determined by the Constitution...........(it is very large of explain)

Currently the functions of the Presidents of the Republics are similar to those of the King and no one criticizes, if the Greek monarchy had more relevance in the policy, was due to political circumstances that suffered the country, the lack of parliamentary majorities that hindered the creation of governments, the problem of Cyprus....... The queen elizabeth of england has more functions that the former King of greece, but bipartisanship has favored creation of governments , other example, the King Belgium has been essential to formation of government by the difficulty to parliamentary majorities...... Everything else you said is incongruous, because it no reflects historical facts, The King of Greece could not ask for anything, because the Colonels modified the Constitution and created a Republic in 1973. The current Constitution has great similarities with Constitution of 1952(No, Head of State). One King does not abdicate in a republic, today in Greece, the experts ask that the functions of president of the republic should be delimited
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Old 09-13-2013, 03:31 PM
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Crown Prince Pavlos is more and more present in the country and his children know Greek .
I really doubt it -their mother like a good new-money American sent them to a french school, and never bother to learn herself-, and wonder how decent that would be. very curious to listen..
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Old 10-31-2013, 07:20 AM
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I've looked at a couple of the posts and i'm not exactly sure about what the greek royals postition is ? Are they not involved in Greece ? Do they bassically have no power or anything ?

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The King of the Hellenes was sent from power in 1974 by a referendum following military dictatorship. He and his family are widely disreputed in their own country for their past political influence of, e.g. swearing militants to power after a coup etc., so as to be asked to obtain Greek citizenships to deal with their affairs with the state and pay regular taxes. The King of the Hellenes is being refered to as the former king by the mass media day in and day out and now the royal family has also started to be named likewise. His palaces have been converted into museums or libraries and cultural centres.

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Crown Prince Pavlos is more and more present in the country and his children know Greek .
What's more than that is now Prince Nicholas and Princess Tatiana have permanently moved to Athens, Greece to live in Castri and occupy part of a famous residence of the former socialist leader of the Papandreou family. This they do along with the King of the Hellenes who has also left excile in London and lives in Athens at an old age today.
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Old 10-31-2013, 08:28 AM
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I really doubt it -their mother like a good new-money American sent them to a french school, and never bother to learn herself-, and wonder how decent that would be. very curious to listen..
Exactly my thoughts!
MC tooked the glittering part of an ex-monarchy, i.e. Title, tiaras and royal events, but none of the responsibilities. She even did not bother to learn the language, and she never took part to any action, charity or other, related to the country she is is supposed to reign. A part of vacationing, her only action relative to Greece was to open a shop in Athens.
I do not like CP Katherine of Serbia, but look how involved she is in the Serbian reality, and she even learned the language.
MC has examples to watch and learn, but she does not care.
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Old 10-31-2013, 01:33 PM
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The house of Nicolas and tatiana, actually it is not confirmed , I have read in one blog that others speak of a house in another residential area, on the other hand Sofia Papandreou owns this building for rent apartments, but she does not lives in Greece. I have read that Prince Nicolaos is not in Greece to be politician, he is by motives of businesses, and this is very important because these companies provide jobs.
I like it because this is very good for Greek economy
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I've looked at a couple of the posts and i'm not exactly sure about what the greek royals postition is ? Are they not involved in Greece ? Do they bassically have no power or anything ?

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The chances of the greek throne being resurrected used to be minimal for years and years until now, when the institution of monarchy is gaining back some of its popularity and greek royals have been performing their duties more often than before given the right publicity, thus establishing a preference in the public opinion of the monarchy as a unifying symbol for Greece and its financial and political crisis. It stands more chances than ever before of being restored, maybe even since the referendum of 1974. With the nazist party coming first in opinion polls and royalist parties being more and bigger than before, it could well be that we have a significant chance of King Constantine ascending to the throne or Crown Prince Paul succeeding him.
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What is the royal family's position on the restoration?

I think Nikolaos is the most interested in restoration. He was the only son of the king who moved to Greece. What is the opinion of Nikolaos on the restoration?
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Any recent polls regarding a possible restoration of Monarchy in the country?
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Not even close. Right now the last Greek thinking is this. A poll will be a waste of time.
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Old 10-18-2015, 12:01 PM
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Prince Nikolaos is not in Greece to engage in policy .

He lives in Greece because he loves his country,he participates in charity projects of Ane Marie Foundation and other like giving blood, .... but he is not in Greece to engage in policy
Do you know what the problem of this theme? The problem is that the people confuse the monarchy with a political party or identify the monarchy with a political ideology. In Greece, in the press speaks about members of the greek royal family, Nikolaos....., it is true, but the press are not talking of the royal family like one monarchy, they speak of candidates to President or Primer Minister of one Republic.This is is mistake, Constantine said in an interview in a Spanish newspaper(2014), "the monarchy does not mutate into a political party," this is his position..

in January I read a very interesting article in one newspaper, the elections for prime minister were very next and Greece was on the campaign electoral, the article spoke of facebook groups and as the political parties were looking to their future voters in facebook and others,...... and it was curious, because the article spoke of one facebook group recently created, in which the group defended the change to Head of State, they demanded that the head of the republic should be King Constantine, the journalist was suprised because the group had achieved a 10.000 greek followers in one week, including politicians. IT IS MISTAKE.

The position of the Greek Royal family is that, "the monarchy does not mutate into a political party," (2014).
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I suppose the support for Monarchy could grow after what happened in the country in the recent years.
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I suppose the support for Monarchy could grow after what happened in the country in the recent years.
The difficulties that Greece has faced over the last few years with the political and economical upheavals it has experienced may make some people search for stability, and a monarchy does symbolise stability in a lot of cases. This is especially true when people are fed up with the politicians across all the parties.

But I'm not so sure this is the case for many Greek people - I guess it depends on how much they know or think of their former royal family.
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Greece have been in economic turmoil for over 5 years now without any considerable growth in support for the return of the monarchy.


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Old 10-19-2015, 05:54 AM
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I agree with both. The problem is that people here, especially the younger generation around 20 to 40-45 years do not know what the royal family (yes is true) or not at all interested in this. Most refer to them with sarcasm or irony. Not so for Kings and Nikolaos with Tatiana living discreetly as the Crown Prince Family have a different lifestyle. It is not their fault because Marie-Chantal as daughter of a wealthy family that lifestyle has learned. And so she grows and her daughter. For boys do not know, especially for the older Constantinos who would one day become head of the royal family. Will see in the future.
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Old 10-20-2015, 09:10 AM
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The difficulties that Greece has faced over the last few years with the political and economical upheavals it has experienced may make some people search for stability, and a monarchy does symbolise stability in a lot of cases. This is especially true when people are fed up with the politicians across all the parties.

But I'm not so sure this is the case for many Greek people - I guess it depends on how much they know or think of their former royal family.
Well, Monarchy isn't a solution and this has nothing to do with being pro or against the institution. The country is going through a political transformation with old parties collapsing and new parties emerging and there is no way a 21st century western monarch can do anything about it. The main reason for the constant elections of the last years is that the governments keep losing the support of the parliament's majority. What could a King/Queen do about it?
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Old 10-20-2015, 05:29 PM
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The monarchy may make much, and is very useful, resulting stability in the country.

An example, June 2014, Spain changed its Head of State, ascended to the throne, King Philip, the government of Spain did not resigned, the parliament was not dissolved, the Spanish economy was unaffected, the investors improved the ranking of Spain due to its high stability. The change in the head of state had no impact on other political institutions.

Greece, December 2014, the lack of consensus to election of new president of republic, was the excuse to call elections to Primer Minister , in January in Greece there was an elections to parliament, for new prime minister and government, caused by the change of Head of state.

objectively, the monarchy is obvious that could be good for Greece, however I believe that the Greeks do not understand the state with monarchy and do not give value to it.
But it is obvious that states with monarchy give stability .
To the problem of fractionation of the parliament is a problem, but no is one problem of monarchy or republic, look the US, it is resolved, two political parties.
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Is there any party that supports the restoration of the monarchy in Greece?
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In Greece, there are political parties that defend the monarchy but have no relevance in parliament.

However, it is not good that a political party use the monarchy and its restoration to attract votes, that is a serious mistake, because the monarchy is not restored from a political party that represents an ideology (right or left). Political parties advocating by a restoration of the monarchy only seek to attract votes for their particular interest, because a monarchy is not a political party, and is not a political ideology, it is different.

The restoration of a monarchy depends of people , they should know that is the monarchy, to know the advantages and functions and accept that their state must be represented by a King, then would be born the need of restauration of monarchy.
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