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Old 08-22-2010, 06:11 PM
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The ex royal family of Greece seems to remain famous and 'relevant' because of the close family link to Prince Philip. They dont seem popular in Greece.
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Old 08-23-2010, 08:21 AM
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The ex royal family of Greece seems to remain famous and 'relevant' because of the close family link to Prince Philip. They dont seem popular in Greece.

The Greek royal family has close ties with all the other royal families and are always invited and always respond to their invitations. It is true that they are closely related to Prince Philip but I highly doubt that this is the reason the other royals include them in all their celebrations.
In Greece they are either loved or despised among people of a certain age. The younger ones only care about what they read in the glossies about them but ignore the bigger picture and their history.
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Old 08-23-2010, 01:40 PM
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The Greek royal family has close ties with all the other royal families and are always invited and always respond to their invitations. It is true that they are closely related to Prince Philip but I highly doubt that this is the reason the other royals include them in all their celebrations.
In Greece they are either loved or despised among people of a certain age. The younger ones only care about what they read in the glossies about them but ignore the bigger picture and their history.
Fair enough. If only the Hohenzollerns had remained intermarried into other Royal Families. In that case Prince Georg Friedrich would also have a higher social profile like the ex Greek RF.
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Old 08-23-2010, 03:05 PM
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I cannot figure out what the Hohenzollerns have to do with the possibilities or lack of a restoration of the Greek Royal family
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Old 08-23-2010, 04:37 PM
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Queen Anne-Marie is the sister of the Queen of Denmark, that's a closer tie than what Prince Phillip is to King Constantine. They are invited to almost every royal birthday, event, wedding etc all over the world that isn't just because they have relatives but because, people like them.
They stay "popular" if you wish to call it that, because they are seen and they do good.
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Old 08-24-2010, 05:07 PM
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I cannot figure out what the Hohenzollerns have to do with the possibilities or lack of a restoration of the Greek Royal family
Like the Greek RF, the Hohenzollerns also fall into the same class of 'ex monarchy', albeit the Hohenzollerns abdicated and were not rejected by their country - as were the Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburgs.
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The ex royal family of Greece seems to remain famous and 'relevant' because of the close family link to Prince Philip. They dont seem popular in Greece.
they're not, i can guarantee this to you. they still like to challenge the public opinion, no matter how many of us don't care about a restoration. around 90-95%, that's a great majority. as a matter of fact, i even find Constantine's attitude immoral and not only challenging, if i'm allowed an honest opinion. in his position, i would have the morality and the courage to quit all efforts towards a restoration and i would just sit back home and live my life however i wanted. the percentage of people who support him is between 5-10%, so low that i can't imagine how i would feel, if the 95% of the people of the country i want to reign don't even consider i'm greek. it must be hard. greets!
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This is true from what I've heard from Greek people I know and have met. I was at a party recently with several people who were visiting from Greece. At one point I asked them their opinion on the GRF and the respnse was, "they're not Greek. No Greek blood runs through their veins. They're from Denmark and England and other parts of Europe. Transplants, who needs them." There were other comments made that I will refrain from posting.
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Old 12-01-2010, 02:38 PM
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Bella, thank you, my friend, for sharing your experience from the Greek people! It's so true, the negativity about the ex-royal family can reach 100%, and of course, i know how some greeks express themselves. Whatever, the point is that this is the reality here and the ex-king/now-nothing should know better and not expose himself so often.
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Old 12-01-2010, 03:01 PM
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To be honest, I doubt that he tries for a restoration any longer, he must realize that the majority of people do not care enough to press the parliament so severely as to force them to make a whole new Constitution because right now the article 110 stands in his way and unless it seizes to exist there is no legal way for the monarchy to come back.
And I would like to add something here about Bella's post regarding the Greeks she met - I guess many members would protest that those Greeks she met are not fair because nowadays it shouldn't matter what your blood is but where you were born, if you were raised in the country and what you consider yourself to define yourself as Greek. Well, in Greece it still matters a lot to claim that you have " Greek blood" , to be able to prove that you are a member of the Greek nation in order to say that you are truly a Greek. Even today most Greeks do not consider immigrants who have lived in this country most of their life as Greeks and IMO never will , because these people cannot claim that they descend from Greek people. And that is a reason why foreigners can have a very hard time getting a Greek citizenship - not to mention that in our heads "citizenship" and "nationality" are two very different things. So it might seems silly and unfair to an outsider to watch Greeks claim that the GRF is not Greek at all because they have foreign ancestors but to most Greeks it makes perfect sense
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Old 12-01-2010, 04:45 PM
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i agree with snowflower. people of this forum must understand that they're maybe the majority here, but a tiny minority in real life. sometimes i wanted to post something and discuss some issues further, but i was hesitating because of their passion and obsession with the monarchy and with some royals, like the supposed "greek". anyway, it doesn't matter anymore. greets to everyone!
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It might be a miracle or fascinating for once to see a Greek royal marry another Greek. I cannot remember when this last happened. But it certainly would assist to have them marry into their own community instead of outside so systematically and methodically.
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Glücksburg, Glücksburg , this is not their surname, this is not the surname of the dynasty, why would the journalist and politicians repeatedly say it??? to make clear that the old dynasty was foreign and German .....And thus prevent any member of the Greek royal family can hold political office in the future (This is an assumption, 100% no member of the family will devote to the politician)
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But why would a foreign last name prevent them from holding a political office? It is only the citizenship that stops them from going into politics. As long as they become Greek citizen they can get involved into politics, no matter if their last name is German , Greek, Danish, Russian or Chinese
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But why would a foreign last name prevent them from holding a political office? It is only the citizenship that stops them from going into politics. As long as they become Greek citizen they can get involved into politics, no matter if their last name is German , Greek, Danish, Russian or Chinese
This is relative because to stand for municipal elections, he would not need a Greek passport, for any European citizen can be in any European country in the municipal elections .... And back at the beginning of the problem, now King Constantine has a surname in his passport, this is not Glubkbug, it is easy to know by the Greek authorities, but yet politicians insist on call to him Glubkburg(foreing) which is not the surname of his passport. If he would assume a Greek surname and passport, What for? the press and politicians would follow calling him "Glubkburg" ,this is foreing...
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I think that, in our modern times, to speak one about how Greek is the GRF, by saying about their...blood, is a little bit racist. After King George the 1st, all the members of the GRF were born Greek. So i think the "blood talking" is totally nonsense... specially with so many so called "Greek" politicians as Geoffrey Papandreou...;-)
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they're not, i can guarantee this to you. they still like to challenge the public opinion, no matter how many of us don't care about a restoration. around 90-95%, that's a great majority. as a matter of fact, i even find Constantine's attitude immoral and not only challenging, if i'm allowed an honest opinion. in his position, i would have the morality and the courage to quit all efforts towards a restoration and i would just sit back home and live my life however i wanted. the percentage of people who support him is between 5-10%, so low that i can't imagine how i would feel, if the 95% of the people of the country i want to reign don't even consider i'm greek. it must be hard. greets!
Ya sou, that's right AFAIK, poly sosta. The ex-King isn't really welcome there. I know it because I lived in Greece for 12 years, til this day my best friends are Greek. I'm pretty much amazed by their dedication to democratic values, by their pride and concern to protect their democracy.

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The ex royal family of Greece seems to remain famous and 'relevant' because of the close family link to Prince Philip. They dont seem popular in Greece.
ITA. It's a cultural thing, the Greeks don't view their deposed royal family as symbols of unity. I went to a Greek high school and still remember reading about the ancient history of the country, the Acropolis, the Revolution of 1821, the Warriors of '21, then their war against Mussolini in 1940 and that sort of things, that made them who they are. Not the monarchy or any King.
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The Kings did a lot to Greece, Thanks to King Constantine A , Salonika and the northern Greek is greek territory, King George was with the allies and this allowed the liberalization of Greece .The Kings have maintained our country's territorial integrity, long of the history. The problem is that for we is easier to believe that the weapons with defended our territory , God had brought us from heaven, than believe that alliances of our Kings with other states allowed weapons for our liberalization . But if you want an example of I tell you now I'll explain more updated. We prefer believe that China is our friend who has come to save us from the crisis, they helps us to reclaim the friezes of partnoon , than believe that China is helping us because we owe so much money , it is obvious, they help to us because they feel as if the Acropolis would be of their domain
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I agree with Nikolopoulus.The concept of homeland was introduced in Greece by the monarchy.
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