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Old 11-14-2008, 08:56 PM
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I have read that in the genealogical tree of Tatiana appear in some point the Queen Federika..
I think that if it is true, it has to be by the Hesse because, the Queen Federika had kinship with the family Hesse.

Given its pedigree:
Is Tatiana from the Royalty? Is Tatiana of "blue blood"? as the magazine say .
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Old 11-15-2008, 01:24 AM
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Queen Frederika was born a Princess of the Royal House of Hanover and had only a few direct blood connections with the House of Hesse. Her mother was Princess Viktoria Luise of Prussia, the Kaiser's daughter, and her father was the son of a Hanover prince and Princess Thyra of Denmark, daughter of Christian IX. Thyra's mother - Christian IX's wife -was Princess Louise of Hesse-Cassel. Thus Queen Frederika was a great-granddaughter of a Hesse-Cassel princess. The Hesse-Cassels were the Electoral or "lesser" branch of the House of Hesse as the Hesse-Darmstadt line held the Grand Ducal throne.

Some genealogical sites state that Tatiana Blatniks's mother, Marie Berlein, is a "descendant of the Stuarts" but there would be thousands of those living today. Very litle is known about her father.
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Old 11-15-2008, 05:27 AM
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Tatiana's father is an American politician.

Tatiana works for DvF and he and she were photographed a few days ago at a comic book party for DvF's new Comic Wonderwoman. They look very much in love.

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I much prefer the way Nikolaos is fixing his hair now. The slicked back look did not do him very many favors. I'm starting to hope there will actually be an announcement soon.
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Who is her father? Is he a member of the House, or is he involved at the state level?
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Old 11-15-2008, 11:22 AM
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He's was a Sergeant at Arms (I'm not sure his political affiliation so he may or may not be there after January). Her grandfather is a bit more famous and his info can be found on wikipedia (John Blatnik). He was a U.S. Representative as well. I'm not sure what political level it was but I'm guessing state.
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Have you ever thought that maybe Nikolaos' feelings are divided between these 2 women,Victoria and Tatiana?Perhaps that is why he never moved on to the next level (marriage):he's not sure about which one he loves more...Just a thought.LOL
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Old 11-16-2008, 12:22 AM
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I agree Prince Nikoloas of Greece looks much better with his hair this way
in the link.And it is his decision when and if marries Tatiana or any other woman at that.
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Have you ever thought that maybe Nikolaos' feelings are divided between these 2 women,Victoria and Tatiana?Perhaps that is why he never moved on to the next level (marriage):he's not sure about which one he loves more...Just a thought.LOL
Nikolaos and Victoria have never had a romantic relationship. It's all wishful thinking on the part of the royalty press and royalty watchers after seeing Nikolaos and Victoria walking together at her 25th birthday celebrations, it was all 'what a perfect pairing'. They would see each other maybe once or twice a year at various family functions, both are living with their longterm partners, hardly torn between 2 lovers.

Why do people always assume that it's the man who's reluctant to get married? Maybe the reason why Nikolaos and Tatiana aren't married yet is because she doesn't want to get married.
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Old 11-17-2008, 02:38 PM
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I believe the real obstacle in the way of Nikolas and Tatiana getting married is religion. She is not Orthodox but Jewish, and I suspect she has no intention of converting whatsoever. This will certainly not be welcomed by the Greeks –among which Nikolas at the moment still enjoys a certain popularity that other members of the family don’t.
So I don’t see this being overcome –and being sympathetic to Niko, I don’t see why it should, to be honest.
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Tatiana is Jewish?Are we sure about that?I always thought she belonged to a different Christian dogma,but at least,Christian.Well,if it's true,this complicates things even more,because I'm sure the ex-kings would never let Nikolaos convert to Jewism.
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Old 11-21-2008, 05:13 PM
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I see two groups in this section of the forum:
The first defenders Tatiana
A second defenders Victoria
I think that to analyze the situation it is necessary to distinguish between two factors:
A: What I would like ...
B: What I see..

"What I would like ..." :
I would like to see Niko as the husband of Princess Victoria.
I think that Prince Niko is the suitable candidate, his education, his elegance, his good behavior in acts of royalty and the public, his studies ..... He is the perfect candidate.

He would be the appropriate complement to Victoria, he could help her in his future mission as Queen.

"What I see"
I see to Niko very committed in the Foundation, Ann Marie, in his work. He is very integrated into English society and now travels regularly to his homeland, Greece ...
I see the pictures of Niko and Tatiana and I see LOVE.Tatiana IS integrated into the family, traveling with them, is in acts of the family, she appears in photographs with family .....
Therefore, I think:
Tatiana is the woman of Niko.

On the other hand, I agree with Tamta:
The Orthodox church has been very united historically to the Greek Monarchy .... When Greece was a monarchy, the state religion was Orthodox, but after, in the republic, the state is a secular state ....
The Orthodox church is very confronted to other Orthodox Patriarchate and with other Christian religions as the Catholic .... but they are also confronted with the religion Jewish ...
If Niko would marry with Tatiana, she should give up their religion and assume the Orthodox church, if that isn´t so, it could be very problematic for the relationship between orthodox church-Monarchy
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Belt.........98% of the Greek Citizens are Greek Orthodox and the Church has a very powerful presence.
Greeks are devout although may not be the sort who go to Mass every Sunday.
The only difference in recent years was established by the Socialist government when they changed the format of the Greek ID cards. Religion was not mentioned as before. There were a lot of protests and in the end the Government prevailed and the ID cards issued conform to the EU standards. Greeks remain in a great majority members of the Greek Orthodox Church.
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I want to correct an earlier assertions that I made in this forum and it is incorrect.
I said that the Orthodox Church was strongly linked to the monarchy, it is correct, but I told:
In the Republic "Greece is secular state",it is incorrect, I wanted to say that In the Republic, the monarchy and the orthodox church were secularized . This is logical (The Orthodox church is in the Greek Constitution,obviously, the monarchy is not into the Constitution)
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He's was a Sergeant at Arms (I'm not sure his political affiliation so he may or may not be there after January). Her grandfather is a bit more famous and his info can be found on wikipedia (John Blatnik). He was a U.S. Representative as well. I'm not sure what political level it was but I'm guessing state.

Mr Blatnik is Tatiana's step father not her natural father.
I read some of the posts and you all made me smile. You really believe that if Nikolaos announces his engagement the Queens of Spain and Denmark will clear their calendar to appear at the announcement? It did not even happen when Pavlos got engaged.
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Old 12-02-2008, 07:22 AM
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The Spanish magazine "LECTURAS" published this report in December 1998, it was dinner for the commitment of Alexia of Greece in London, at the Hotel Claridge. Queens of Spain and Denmark were in the party, this day was made the official photo but the announcement of the wedding took place a week after that "LECTURAS" published this story.
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Old 12-03-2008, 03:04 AM
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Mr Blatnik is Tatiana's stepfather not her natural father.
I read some of the posts and you all made me smile. You really believe that if Nikolaos announces his engagement the Queens of Spain and Denmark will clear their calendar to appear at the announcement? It did not even happen when Pavlos got engaged.
I don't think that he is the stepfather. At the minimum, he is her LEGAL father (she took his name and therefore has another if he's only a stepfather etc). I have never read that her father was anyone else, however and have seen a post on a site from someone who claimed to work for Rep. Blatnik saying that Tatiana WAS his daughter.

As far as the Queen of Spain -- didn't she attend the announcement of the marriage of Alexia or Pavlos? I seem to recall she did and so did Queen Ingrid! I think the Queen of Spain has been quite generous of her time in regards to her birth House and I doubt she would snub her nephew.
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I've taken out some of the more fanciful posts. Could we please put this unfounded engagement speculation to rest.
If it happens, we will know. Otherwise, until an announcement is made it's more a case of wishful thinking.

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My Oracle has no answer for the moment ...
I am beginning to have my doubts,but the priestesses of the temples Greeks also were confused.
Analyzing the current situation of Tatiana
I conclude that there are three status:
A: the first Status of "girlfriend"
b: The second, the status "official girlfriend", she can go family celebrations but it is not guarantee of marriage
C:three the status "compromised", it is guarantee of marriage.
d: status of "spouse".
If Niko and Tatiana break their relation, I think that this would be a very ugly because their position would be very similar to a broken marriage.
Tatiana is the official girlfriend if Niko does not marry with her, it will be very frustrating for her, because he has created false expectations about her future
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Belt. There are couples who live happily ever after without a need to get married. I highly doubt that in their case, as in some other high profile royal couples, they are not BOTH aware of where they are and where they want to go.
They are a lovely couple who obviously are happy together. I do not believe anyone is being compromised.
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Ok... I agree .. but you think about the hypothesis :" If they break their relationship" ..
He has created false expectations about her marriage, they have gone to weddings, christenings, birthdays Royal ...

It would be very frustrating for her.
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