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Old 01-13-2009, 02:11 PM
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I guess it's all Greek to you
You gave me a good chuckle with this reply! And yes, you are correct, it is all greek to me! I still can't see the pics. The same msg comes up. and this time I waited for something to load, but adobe acrobate popped up and then in the lower left corner it said "done" and nothing showed up.

So I give up. I so dislike confusers!
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Old 01-14-2009, 08:28 AM
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Tatoi photo archive's

Hi again,
I will upload the same PDF photo files but in english. I think that the problem is that your PC could not read greek letters.

Sorry for the trouble!!!

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Old 01-16-2009, 08:07 PM
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Vasilofron I have same doubts:
First, I read a law of the Greek government about the future palace of Tatoi , I think it was 2007 and it planned buildings parks and sports .... but I do not remember anything said it about museum dedicated to the Royal Family.

This talk of a residence for public office, but it said nothing of a museum.
I know that the law has been modified but I donīt know the exact contents while it is possible that until the restoration is possible to change much the content of the law.


I think it is difficult to untie TAtoi to THE IDEA OF Royal Palace, I will like it outside a museum but I think it is very difficult. I think it would attract much tourism because tourists identify it with the royal house, but so I think the politicians try to make every effort to disassociate itself from the idea Tatoi = Royal Family , especially PASOK.

I think it's hard to think that in future this is a museum, but I believe that we can not lose hope.
I support you, TAtoi = Royal Palace are united and I believe that no political force can separate the idea of TAtoi = royal palace. They can give a destination different to museum ,but they can not separate the idea de TAtoi=palace Royal


I remember a Greek Association requested that the palace was a museum dedicated to the Queen Federika, Are you of this association? .
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Old 01-17-2009, 05:48 AM
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Hello,

I am not with any association!
These associations never really were interested in nothing exept for the way they could sell memorabillia and other things just to get money!

The Greek Ministry of culture has said formally that the palace building will become a museum and all the contents that are inside the palace will be maintained and put back inside as they were and also contents from the palace of Athens and Mon Repos will also be in the future museum.

Once I have more information from the ministry of culture and from the archaeological service I will post on this board!

We have had a change in ministers of the goverment and also a new minister of culture, so some things may change again!

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Old 01-17-2009, 10:56 AM
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I was thinking about the same thing as well:let's see what Antonis Samaras,the new Minister,has to say.We all know that even if he agrees with everything,it will take much more time for all those things to get started
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Old 01-19-2009, 06:42 PM
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Excuseme Vasilofron by the question.
I read a lot about a partnership to make a museum in the palace of Tatoi in tribute to the Queen Federika, they even asked the Greek government this museum. The association said that it was made up of people from Tatoi.
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Old 01-20-2009, 08:51 AM
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Hi again,
It's the first time I have heard about this tribute to Queen Frederika!
I dont know an association with people from Tatoi. What people? The area of Tatoi does not have anything exept of the great forest that everyone should take a walk!

If so, it would be very difficult for a "royal museum"!!!

The goverment may have a problem to turn the palace into a museum with the belongings of the royal family and the historic other thing that are inside!

If these people are from a royalist union or association thats another thing.

In the past years these associations have not done anything about Tatoi!
They have small offices and sell cups, pins, callanders etc!
No move has been made for them for anything!

I know about these people because I had contact with them for many years and saw that there first goal is the restoration of the monarchy and nothing else!

If you could inform me about these people I would be very happy!

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Old 01-20-2009, 02:51 PM
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Wow,that was enlightening So this kind of people do exist nowadays...
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Old 01-22-2009, 06:25 PM
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I do not know anybody in this association.I do not remember her name but this is something related to history, historical association or historical memory ... It was something like that, but I do not remember his name. I do not know if these people are monarchists.
If they sell plates, cups .. I do not know. I read about them.
I think his proposal is not very wise because it would make more sense that they had proposed a museum tribute to King Pavlo .. But only a museum in Tatoi tribute to Queen Federika .. This is not logical, but I admit that his was fun proposal.There were also people and politicians who proposed a hotel, a casino ..
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Old 01-22-2009, 06:33 PM
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The funny thing is that they haven't said a word on the news all these months.If it wasn't the forum,I wouldn't even know that the government started thinking about making something with Tatoi,whatever that would be(to be honest,I haven't understood their intentions yet...).And I'll tell you something else now and,please,remember this when the time comes:if PASOK wins in the next elections-which I hope!-forget about Tatoi transformed into a Royal Museum
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Old 01-22-2009, 06:55 PM
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do you remember when in Athens changed the street names?, the street had names of Queens If they created a big controversy over this, and they changed it by the name of leaders of the Republic, after it .. I think that affirm that Tatoi will be a museum, it isnīt real
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Old 02-18-2009, 09:27 PM
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Hi all is ther only 2 pages to this site?
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Old 02-19-2009, 05:39 AM
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Well, you never know what will happen with Pasok or even Nea Dimokratia. A few years ago when the Pasok goverment was still up, I was at the opening of the Royal Theatre in Thessaloniki (Vasilikon Theatron) and the minister K. Laliotis who was from the goverment made a comment on the name. He told a group of people that were politicians, reporters and others that were invited that: ".....we should wonder in the last 100 years of Greek history who exiled the royals and who brought them back.....the right wing parties were the first to kick them out and the socialists to invite them back....."

You could never know what could happen in the future. The Pasok goverement over the years wanted to give back the royal estate.....I wish they would never become a goverment again....I just want the Tatoi estate to become a place with life and not be as it is now a place of sorrow...
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Old 02-19-2009, 03:00 PM
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I do not like old abandoned buildings, I think That it could be good that the building would be utility for the people
On the other hand, from my critical point of view, I think that PASOK should interest it, because the PASOK had the expropriate it, established the general interest that justified the expropriaton, established the utility for the people.
If the PASOK would reconstruct it , The PASOK could prove that it was not a political whim ..
I think that it is late for prove it BUT.....

Expropriate fast and slow reconstruct= it is not general interest, it had private interest.

In my opinio, Vasilofron , it should have utility for people...
You're right
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Old 02-21-2009, 01:14 AM
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do you remember when in Athens changed the street names?, the street had names of Queens If they created a big controversy over this, and they changed it by the name of leaders of the Republic, after it .. I think that affirm that Tatoi will be a museum, it isnīt real
This is funny. I remember standing on the street asking a passer by about King Constantine Avenue and she refused to give me directions. Another one yelled at me there is no longer such a thing. The street was changed to Andreas Papandreou Avenue.

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Thank you Vasilofron for the information and photos.
The truth is that Tatoi was bought by King George with his own funds and it is amazing at how the Greek government has taken possesion of it. It does not matter how much compensation the GRF received. This was a property obtained with private funds brought from outside the country and it should have remained in the possesion of the GRF.
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Old 02-21-2009, 10:05 AM
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It's a pity that a so beautiful palace is left neglected...
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Old 02-21-2009, 08:21 PM
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They occupied the main Palace in Athens as a residence of the President and location for official receptions, so they maintained it. The Mon Repos in Corfu was occupied right away and the Mayor declared it a preserved site since there are ruins under the foundation that date back a long time. The government had no interest in maintaining the Tatoi and it was left locked for a long time. It has been crumbling for a while and hopefully they will decide to renovate and bring it back to its original simple glory. We'll see.
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Old 03-26-2009, 04:47 PM
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The past week, the day 15 was celebrated in palace of Tatoi the Religious Memorial in memory of the Kings Pavlo and Federika. In the ceremony was the Kings Constantine and Ann Marie, and Princess Irene and old collaborators of the Royal family

I ask: How do the Kings from Greece enter the enclosure of Tatoi? At present the palace is property of the Greek State.

A-They must solicit an authorization to the government to celebrate the memorial.
b- They have a right to visit to the cemetery, they can enter when they wish but only the cemetery
c-They have a right from visit to all the enclosure, they do not need authorization.
d-They has a right to visit because they are the proprietors of the human rest that it are in the cemetery. They are the proprietors of the cemetery.
I have been analyzing it and I think that Constantine has a right to visit the enclosure and tombs, this is, Constantine is proprietor of the human rest that are in Tatoi
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I hope the Greek Royal Family has the right to visit the cemetery...but, after the acts of the Greek state against them, all is possible...
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They are allowed in Greece at any time they wish to visit and they are free to move about all over the country with no restrictions.
There is no such thing as proprietor of human remains. The dead royals rest at the cemetery in Tatoi and it is separate from the rest of the estate which was purchased by the government.
In Greece one can buy the cemetery plots the family is resting and owns the land where the graves are. The Greek goverment considers the royal family as Danish citizens with no special privileges thus they cannot deny them rights they give the rest of the citizens.
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