Greek Royal Palaces and Residences

[iannis]

It's Tatoee

[Beatrice]

The Palace they had at Thessaloniki was near the area of Peraia (Περαία) don't confuse it with Peiraia in Athens.It was small and had a great view at the Gulf of Thermaikos..

[ChevalieurduCiel]

Originally Posted by Beatrice

The Palace they had at Thessaloniki was near the area of Peraia (Περαία) don't confuse it with Peiraia in Athens.It was small and had a great view at the Gulf of Thermaikos..

has a view to Mount Olympos,and nothing to do with Peraiah! The district is called Aretsou!My wife is from Salonique

[Beatrice]

I said near Peraia and not in Peraia and i have relatives there too so i know that Aretsou is in Kalamaria and the Palace had indeed a view to Thermaikos Gulf from there.You're probably right about the Mount Olympos but like i said the Palace has a view to the Gulf!

[ChevalieurduCiel]

Originally Posted by Beatrice

I said near Peraia and not in Peraia and i have relatives there too so i know that Aretsou is in Kalamaria and the Palace had indeed a view to Thermaikos Gulf from there.You're probably right about the Mount Olympos but like i said the Palace has a view to the Gulf!

Near Peraia is only the airport and the Regency Casino!Next to,and towards the city,is Ai Giannis,then Kalamaria,then Aretsou,and Palataki is in the beginning of Aretsou!On the back side,across Sofouli there are Barracks within stables with mules!!Thats where my wife's next of kin are living! If we go back and next to Palataki there is the Naval administration of the Golf,.. Where are your relatives living??

[Daytona]

You are both giving informations known only to Greeks!These,in my opinion,will not help at all other readers and propably are of no interest.

[politikgirl]

How many former Greek palaces are there?

And it is a shame that some of them have deteriorated as they are definitely an important part of Greece's past, and of course, a potential revenue-earner, as tourists just love palaces.

[Daytona]

I believe there are five palaces-mansions.
In Athens the palace(at some point a palace for the monarch and later for the heir to the throne),in Psichico a mansion ,in Tatoi the winter palace( in an estate of 300,000 acres),in Salonica and finally in Corfu.There is also an estate in Larisa(many acres of land used mostly for hunting.In that estate existes a hunting kiosk but it was only used once during the 150 years of monarchy)

[AKIOU]

If anyone is interested in relatively recent photos of Tatois palace state, I found this article dated 15/11/05. It seems to be rather run down.

http://www.forthnet.gr/templates/new....aspx?p=141969

AKIOU

[AKIOU]

Originally Posted by Duke of Brunswick-Lüneburg

Hi, does anyone have some information about the Royal residence or town of Psychiko. I read in the biography of Queen Sophie of Spain (born Princess of Greece) that she was born in Psychiko, but I couldn't find anything about this place. So if you can help me to find some information, thanks.....

Regards....

I used to live in Psychiko. Psychiko is one of the northern suburbs of Athens, now more or less part of Greater Athens. The royal residence still exists although like Tatoi it has been cordoned off (high fence/barbed wire) and abandoned to its fate.

I assume that since the Greek government and the Royal family have been in legal battle for ages over the ownership of the royal estate the did not keep up it's maintainance till the matter was settled.

Since the residence in Psychiko is on one of the main streets it is easily accesible to look at from the outside.

I have no idea what the government is considering doing with this residence.

AKIOU

[Marengo]

Originally Posted by AKIOU

If anyone is interested in relatively recent photos of Tatois palace state, I found this article dated 15/11/05. It seems to be rather run down.

http://www.forthnet.gr/templates/new....aspx?p=141969

AKIOU

thanks, it looks like a rather desolate place. I hope the King will be able to buy it back one day, especially as his anscestors are burried there.

He recently said in Point de Vue that he is working out an arrangement, so who knows.

[Jaya]

Originally Posted by Duke of Brunswick-Lüneburg

Hi, does anyone have some information about the Royal residence or town of Psychiko. I read in the biography of Queen Sophie of Spain (born Princess of Greece) that she was born in Psychiko, but I couldn't find anything about this place. So if you can help me to find some information, thanks.....

Regards....

The residence in Psychiko is abandoned and in decay next to a friend's home that I know there.That is a travesty.

[Jaya]

Those beautiful residences in Greece belonging to the Royal family.
I wonder about the Feng Shui and Vastu Shastra of them.
From what I have seen of Tatoi I think it had
difficult architecural energy to commandeer. I wonder about all the residences ofthe royals in Greece
and how Feng Shui is applicable along with Vastu Shastra. That includes
Mon Repos where HRH Prince Philip was born.

[Jaya]

Originally Posted by Splodger

I have come across some information regarding the Palace of Tatoi and wounderd if anyone out there new if this was correct or had changed since the following webpage was published in 2001.

http://www.fbarnard.org.uk/greek01/greece01.htm

According to the above webpage, Tatoi is not only closed to the public, but hard to find, railed off and guarded by police and a gaurd dog. I was woundering if this is still the case as I was under the impression from the recent Court Case over it between Constantine and the Greek Government, that Tatoi was being held for the benefit of the Greek people and was therefore open to the public. It seems rather bizzar that the Government paid Constantine all that money as oposed to giving it back to him, only to let it rot.

That is the subconscious collectivist mind speaking PERHAPS as they allow it to rot.
in Greece they all want to be kings now. I mean they had the audacity to ask the KING who has a "calling" what is his profession. People with a " calling" do not have a sideline they are called. Ifbeingking was a profession and is subject to their revisionsim that is one heck of a severance pay the king should have received.

[Daytona]

According to a greek tv station Konstantinos new house is almost ready.It is located at the old Athens,under Acropolis,named Plaka.It is an old house,restored which costed 2 million euros.The family is searching for another house to an even more posh quartier called Ekali since the house in Plaka is meant for Nikolaos.

[vally]

Hello, i just read this thread and i have a few questions. Firstly, who is Ada in the article? Secondly, where is the Palace in Athens which is larger than the one in Tatoi? i'm stuck and although i have sth in mind i'd like someone to take me out of my confusion. thanks in advance.

[sesa]

And I have questons also, since I'm not familiar with the GRF.
First of all, why was the family sent into exile, besides the fact that they got rid of the monarchy. Did the King do something wrong or illegal? Were their lives in danger?
And if the Rf paid for Tatoi out fo their own personal funds, why would the King have to "buy" it back from the goverment when it is rightfully his/thiers.
When they fled into exile, I know they only took the jewels and left everything else behind and that later the goverment allowed the King to go back and get "certain" things that belonged to his family. Does that mean since the moment they fled, everything else has remained in the house or did the goverment empty out the house and put everything in a secure holding?
I apologize for my ignorance in advance, but I've never really had an interest in the Greek RF until now and their is only basic stuff on the King and Queens relationship on these threads.
thanks in advance to anyone who can answer my questions.

[Warren]

Originally Posted by sesa

And I have questons also, since I'm not familiar with the GRF.

Here is a lengthy Wikipedia article on King Constantine, including why he was exiled by the Colonels in 1967.

It seems Tatoi has been left more or less as it was since then, and has had no maintenance for 40 years. It makes no sense for the government to now claim that items have been "stolen". They have had control of the property for four decades and could easily have moved the valuables to a secure location at any time. Or hired a caretaker.

[fandesacs2003]

Originally Posted by Warren

It seems Tatoi has been left more or less as it was since then, and has had no maintenance for 40 years. .

Absolutely, the whole domain is in avery bad situation. They are about 40 building, most of them are completely falling down. Since 1968 to 1999 they were completely left on their own, but the final catastrophy came in 1999, an earthquacke destroyed the roofs of some of the buildings.
The situation is dramatical, it is a real pitty.

Originally Posted by Warren

It makes no sense for the government to now claim that items have been "stolen".

This made laughing every sensible person....

Originally Posted by Warren

They have had control of the property for four decades and could easily have moved the valuables to a secure location at any time. Or hired a caretaker.

They are 3 policemen + an electronical security system guarding 40 buildings.....

[fandesacs2003]

Originally Posted by sesa

Does that mean since the moment they fled, everything else has remained in the house or did the goverment empty out the house and put everything in a secure holding?
.

No all staff is supposed to have been left there, BUT

During the 7 years of militar dictature, everyone of the people in power, could go in Tatoi and "take" things. A good friend of my mother and wife of a "high doctor", told me that she saw in a reception, at these years, the daughter of one of the Dictature's Colonels, wearing a kind of "parure" which she recognised having belonged to the Queen Frederica. A kind of jewel, of not a very big value, which they did not have the time to take with them, when leaving Greece.

Since 1974, The State NEVER guarded properly this place, it is an enormous place, very difficult to controle, unless you use a huge number of persons and means.
They "noticed" two robberies during these years, and I suppose many many unnoticed....

I friend of mine used to hors ride in this place, she told me that she had approached very closely the royal building, many many times, without being noticed by anyone...
From this point, is someone would like to go in.... and take staff, it should not be very difficult. Anyone could easily steal 12 spoons, or a nice clothe, it is easy to carry, and nobody remembers that this staff has existed. And not talking about the clothes, the gowns the military uniforms, the guns, the light cutlery......

It is sad. I feel sad as a Greek, because it is my country's history, which are being destroyed.