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Old 10-07-2010, 01:40 PM
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I guess it depends on the dynasty and tradition. For example, the Order of St. Catherine was only given to women and the Russian Empress was the head of the order. Russian Grand Duchesses were invested with the order at their christening or when they married a Grand Duke. Princesses of the Imperial Blood were invested at their majority when they turned 18.

It may the tradition of the Greek Royal Family to award the order to royal babies at their baptism.
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Old 10-10-2010, 06:53 AM
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I found thisclose up photo from Alexia's baptism and suddenly realised that the "ribbon" I had seen on other pictures is actually the Order of St Olga and St Sophia
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/c...tro/alexia.jpg
Couls someone explain to me if this was a tradition of the GRF to give orders at baptism? and why would they do it? I mean, a prince/ princess doens't usually use orders until he comes of age, so what's the point of granting one to a baby?

In Sweden Princes also got oders at their baptisma. There is the famous 4 generation photo of Carl Gustaf's baptism and you can see that the wears the sash of the Order of the Seraphim.
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Old 10-21-2010, 04:26 AM
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My grandfather left me his Greek Royal Order of George 1. I would like to find out when it was given to him and by whom.
Does the Greek government keep records of this?
I think that, among with the medal, he should have also a record in paper that says that he was given the medal. Can you find it?
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Old 10-21-2010, 12:13 PM
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Surely there must be a list of recipients somewhere. I wonder if writing to Constantine may help.
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Surely there must be a list of recipients somewhere. I wonder if writing to Constantine may help.
You are right. The office of King Constantine must have archives about that, I mean family orders issued from 1974 onward. Insofar as recipients of such orders as the Grand Cross of George I, prior to 1974 as well as a list of those who are alive should normally be available at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Chief of protocol's office, or the corresponding office attached to the Presidency of the Republic.
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Old 10-21-2010, 08:06 PM
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One question, Had Queen Frederika the Order of King George I or II in recognition of her role in the reconstruction of Greece after World War II ?
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Old 10-22-2010, 09:19 PM
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..I read that she had King George's Cross to valor, it was the order that had Queen Federika
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Old 10-24-2010, 06:40 PM
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okey, but when was it granted?. Was it George A or George B ??
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WWII ROYAL GREECE COLLAR ORDER OF St.George&Constantine

WWII ROYAL GREECE COLLAR ORDER OF St.George&Constantine on eBay (end time 24-Nov-10 21:46:49 GMT)
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I found a few days ago this quite large photo of Frederika and I noticed something I hadn't before : she is wearing her Greek orders ( the Redeemer, the Star of the Order of St Olga and St Sophia , a medal I cannot identify but I believe it is King George's Cross of valor that Beltraneja mentioned early) and a man's portrait in a jewelled frame attached on a ribbon. This kind of portrait looks a lot like the royal family orders used in other countries but as far as I know Greece didn't have family orders. The only other woman of the GRF i know wearing something similar is Q Olga in her de Lazlo portrait (wearing the Order of the Redeemer and a portrait hanging from a light blue ribbon). To make thing more confusing for me Q Frederika hasn't worn this potrait in her youth but only much later (In this photo , at Constantine's wedding and Paul's funeral, in a photo with her daughters who were grown up young ladies etc). So, what do you think this is?
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Old 03-11-2011, 04:06 PM
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Could it be some kind of coronation medal? I looked at a webpage devoted to Greek royal orders but could not find anything listed there which is remotely similar to the portrait of the man.
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She received the Cross to the Valor of King George in 1949 for her humanitarian work during the civil war.

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It looks like a portrait of King Georgios I. Maybe it was reserved for the Consorts. Perhaps Queen Sofía didn't wore it or only in some special occasions.
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I love the Greek royal sash only it's strange I haven't seen them wearing it only the crown prince and princess, has it not been bestowed by the king to his other children?
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I too believe the picture your referring to is a picture of HM King George I. In the Book "Pavlos: No Ordinary King (page 28) there is a Picture of HM Queen Olga who recently widowed is sitting surrounded by her children (HM King Constantine, and TRH Princes George, Nicholas, Andrew, Christopher, and HRH Princess Marie nee HIH Grand Duchess Maria Georgievna) and in the pic there is an (or what looks like an open faced Locket ) with the picture of King George I in/on it hanging from a Necklace.
You can Google Widowed Queen Olga and see the images of her wearing the necklace.


there are also several on the web that show it clearly. I blew up the pic of HM Queen Frederica and still wasn't able to see it clearly.

http://s304.photobucket.com/user/rcf...tml?sort=3&o=5

http://s304.photobucket.com/user/rcf...tml?sort=3&o=1

There are two
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In the back of Queen Frederica's Book a Measure of Understanding there is a Clear picture of her wearing a Minature of Palo but she is also in Deep mourning. Maybe is a Greek Mourning thing.. ?
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I love the Greek royal sash only it's strange I haven't seen them wearing it only the crown prince and princess, has it not been bestowed by the king to his other children?


There isn't a Greek Royal Sash, it's the Sash of the Grand Cross of an Order, the Greek Royal Family have 6 Royal Orders, the most Senior being the Royal Order of the Redeemer, the Royal Order of Saints George and Constantine and the Royal Order of Saints Olga and Sophia (both equal orders, one for men and the other for women), the Royal Order of George I, the Royal Order of the Phoenix, the Royal Order of Beneficence (only for women) and finally the Royal Decoration of the Greek Royal House

All children of King Constantine II and Queen Anne-Marie are Knights Grand Cross of the Royal Order of the Redeemer and also Knights of the Decoration of the Greek Royal House, the daughters are also Dames Grand Cross in Special Class of the Royal Order of Saints Olga and Sophia as well as Dame Commanders of the Royal Order of Beneficence and the sons are Knights Grand Cross of the Order of Saints George and Constantine, of which only the Crown Prince has the Collar

The daughters in-law of King Constantine II and Queen Anne-Marie are both Dames Grand Cross of the Royal Order of Saints Olga and Sophia, Crown Princess Marie Chantal in Special Class and Princess Tatiana in 1st Class

The son in-law of King Constantine II and Queen Anne-Marie is a Knight Grand Cross of the Royal Order of Saints George and Constantine

Crown Princess Marie Chantal will most probably become Knight Grand Cross of the Royal Order of the Redeemer when her husband succeeds his father of head of the Greek Royal Family, she will also be Grand Master of the Royal Order of the Redeemer whilst her husband is Sovereign and she will also be Grand Mistress Dame of the Royal Order of Saints Olga and Sophia and Grand Mistress Dame of the Royal Order of Beneficence
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In Sweden Princes also got oders at their baptisma. There is the famous 4 generation photo of Carl Gustaf's baptism and you can see that the wears the sash of the Order of the Seraphim.


In Sweden, Both Princesses and Princes are made Knights/Member of the Royal Order of the Seraphim by birth and wear their mini Grand Cross on their Christening
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Just a question here....why would anyone now get a Greek Royal Order? There is no longer a monarchy in Greece. That would be nothing but an empty title with no meaning behind it. I don't get this giving something without a meaning a meaning or use behind it. The family's titles will die out eventually as how can you pass down a title with nothing behind it? Sure they can be invited to other royal events by other standing royal families as a courtesy or being related somehow yet if there is nothing to back up a title or order what is the use of having it.

IMHO there should be something to stand behind that title or order, not an empty shell of nothingness. Honorable service to what if given, how does one serve a country that does not want you there and hasn't let you be there in decades now?
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Just a question here....why would anyone now get a Greek Royal Order? There is no longer a monarchy in Greece. That would be nothing but an empty title with no meaning behind it. I don't get this giving something without a meaning a meaning or use behind it. The family's titles will die out eventually as how can you pass down a title with nothing behind it? Sure they can be invited to other royal events by other standing royal families as a courtesy or being related somehow yet if there is nothing to back up a title or order what is the use of having it.

IMHO there should be something to stand behind that title or order, not an empty shell of nothingness. Honorable service to what if given, how does one serve a country that does not want you there and hasn't let you be there in decades now?

Only the family of King Constantine II and Queen Anne-Marie are given orders, their Dynastic Order handouts aren't as wide as the Two Sicilian or the Russian Families.

Greece may not be a monarchy but it still has a Royal Family, and the members of the Royal Family will retain their titles, in a sense it does mean that they are still holding their rights to the throne of Greece. But yes, I agree in Greece people don't want the monarchy back and I don't think the Greek Royal Family are in touch with the Greek people either
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