Would you happen to know how those lovely children grew up under such circumstances. Do they feel "displaced" or have they "adapted" living in exile or were they too young too remember. I'm afraid, I have read only bits and pieces about the Greek royals. :(
I suppose they have adapted well since they've been living in London for most of their lives. I think they've been living in London since about 1970. Alexia would have been 5, Pavlos 3 and Nikolaos 1. Theodora and Philippos have always lived in London. King Constantine said on his Larry King interview that one good thing about his exile is that he has had way more time to spend with his family then he would have had otherwise. I think that is why the family is very close, happy and well-behaved. Also, Anne-Marie came from a close, loving family. I'm not sure about Constantine's family. It doesn't always seem to be the same with alot of royal families.
By the way, I'm still rooting for a marriage between HRH Prince William of Wales and HRH Princess Theodora of Greece!
I'm glad to hear they grew up in a normal atmosphere.
As for your wish, that's a different story. Did you know that QEII is Theodora's godmother? So, just for you, here is baby Theodora at her Christening on October 20, 1983 with mother and her godmother AKA her future "granny-in-law" .
Princess Alexia doesn't look too happy in her photos, or maybe she thinks why put on a smile? I can't blame her. It has to be heartbreaking to leave one's own country, to say nothing about the beautiful residential estates left behind.
I wish that Greece would restore its royal family, but until then, it does seem a little strange to refer to them as King or Queen and Crown Prince or Crown Princess. Of what?
Originally posted by thissal@May 10th, 2003 - 11:19 pm I wish that Greece would restore its royal family, but until then, it does seem a little strange to refer to them as King or Queen and Crown Prince or Crown Princess. Of what?
I agree with you Thissal. The whole situation does seem a bit odd.
What makes me wonder, though, is whether the next generation (the King's grandchildren) will receive the recognition that their parents do? I mean, these children, while having the titles of Princes and Princesses, really won't be.
I don't know if Greece will re-instate their royal house, but chances are, probably not. It seems that once a country gets rid of their royality, that's pretty much it, which is why all the ruling houses are a bit touchy on that subject. The same seems to apply in Italy. Although the Crown Prince has acheived celebrity-type fame over there, I highly doubt they would allow him to be King one day.
In my opinion, I think the only way for the members of the Greek royal family to hang on to their titles and position would be to marry into it. For example, if Prince Nikolaos married Crown Princess Victoria (of Sweden) his children would definitely take the throne, compared to Crown Prince Pavlos's children who probably never will.
"It seems that once a country gets rid of their royality, that's pretty much it, ..."
But Spain's royalty was restored after a long absence. I see a royal house as so important in taking some of the PR needs off the government. It seems in the USA, the President and his family have to fulfill the role of royalty plus the role of running a country. That's 2 separate and probably unrelated jobs that just interfere with one another when combined into one.
I definitely agree with you that royality IS important. That's a point that I would never argue against! :P
And you're right about the Spanish family--that completely slipped my mind. But I still hold on to my thinking that the Greek royal family will probably never resume their thrones. It seems to me, that while royality is very important to the government, they also serve as powerful symbols to the public. They represent their countries, they uphold the morals of their countries, etc. And I think a large majority of the basis for royality is public support. For example, if Queen Elizabeth of England suddenly declared an end to the British royal family, I would suspect there would be a huge uproar considering their popularity (William's especially). I have no idea what the Greek people think of their exiled royals, but if they don't miss them, I doubt the royals would be welcome back.
I also think that the whole question is a gamble as well. In the case of the Spanish royality, many felt that Juan Carlos wouldn't be able to handle the role. General Franco handpicked him as his successor, more over. But there were so many other emotions present at the time. Franco had a large opposition force, people still bitter since the end of the Spanish Civil War. There were economic and diplomatic troubles and probably the only reason JC is still around is because he *wanted* Spain to be democracy. It seems to me that there is still some resentment about the King lingering in Greece. *Shrugs* I don't know...these are just my opinions. :flower:
1.The royal family of Greece is (from left to right): Alexia, Princess of Greece; Anne-Marie, Queen of Greece; Pavlos, Crown Prince of Greece; and Konstantinos II, King of Greece.
2.King Constantine with His Family
Original caption: Rome.King Constantine of Greece and his Danish born wife, Queen Anne Marie, present their newly born son Prince Nicholas to the press in the garden of the couple's Rome villa October 8th. With them is their three year old daughter Princess Alexia. Their other son, Prince Paul, 2, is not shown. The baby is eight days old. Constantine and family are living in voluntary exile in Italy.
Corbis: photography, rights, motion. 3.Greek Royal Family Posed For Photo
Original caption: 12/20/1967-Rome, Italy- The Greek royal family posees for photographers Dec. 20th during a picture session at the Hesse Villa.They are, l to r: King Constantine; Queen Anne Marie,holding Crown Prince Paul;Queen Mother Frederika,behind two-year-old Princess Alexia and Princess Irene,Constantine's younger sister.The king was rapidly losing ground to the Athens military regime by remaining silent nearly a week after his abortive counter-coup.
Corbis 4.King Constantine with Children and Archbishop
Original caption: Greek Archbishop Makarios visits self-exiled King Constantine of Greece and his family at their Rome villa. King Constantine, with children, Princess Alexia and Prince Paul, and Makarios (right).
Corbis 5.Portrait of Royalty
Original caption: Athens, Greece....Posed in the Royal Palace in Athens, September 20, during the christening ceremonies of Crown Princess Alexia Area, from left: King Constantine of the Hellenes; Queen Ingrid of Denmark; Queen Anne-Marie (holding her 42-day-old daughter); Queen Frederika, the Queen Mother, and King Frederick of Denmark.
1.POLFOTO Princess Alexia appears with her father King Constantino, in Palma de Mallorca, during the Royal Sailing Cup, on the 9th of August 1998) They use to sail together since they were childs. Carlos Morales is 28, he was born in Arrecife de Lazarote and he is Olimpic Sailing Champion.
1.Polfoto 16-04-2000 Gæsterne ankommer til gallamiddag på Christiansborg for dronning Margrethe. Her ankommer den græske prinsesse Alexia med sin spanske mand, Carlos Morales og lillesøster prinsesse Theodora. DIGITALT FOTO.
2.www.rexfeatures.com - Princes Phillippos, Nikolaos and Pavlos and Carlos Morales, husband of Princess Alexia, visit the Acropolis and the Pantheon, Athens, Greece, 23 July 2003.
3.www.rexfeatures.com - Princes Phillippos, Nikolaos and Pavlos and Carlos Morales, husband of Princess Alexia, visit the Acropolis and the Pantheon, Athens, Greece, 23 July 2003.
6.www.alloverpress.com - King Constantine and Queen Anne Marie on holiday in Gstaad, Switzerland with their grandchildren, Maria Olympia, Konstantine and Achilleas-Andreas, children of Crown Prince Pavlos and Marie-Chantal.
7.www.alloverpress.com - Prince Nikolaos pulls his brother Crown Prince Pavlos and one of his sons in a tobaggan while the royal family is on holiday in Gstaad, Swizerland.