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Old 06-18-2009, 06:01 PM
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I've been reading the newspaper of the Canary Islands and I have surprised ... Carlos Morales has given statement to the police, but he has not testified before the Judge Instructe.
The Judge is who decree the status of "IMPUTADO"..... It is still in the initial phase of the investigation, the investigating judge has not acted yet, Carlos can not have the status "imputado" because he has not given statement to the Judge...The police can not decree the status "imputado".It is posible that he could have give statement to the Judge...but the journalists can not based on the give statement to the police for say that he is "imputado", beacuse the police can not decree it...Only Judge.

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Old 06-19-2009, 12:08 AM
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I think that the truth of the matter will only come out in an official statement of some kind.
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Old 06-19-2009, 03:44 PM
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This afternoon, Carlos has given statement before the judge instructions, the judge has declared his status as "IMPUTADO", that is not "accused". We have to wait to "Auto" (it is a resolution of Judge Instructions).The "Auto" is the phase end of the investigation, it establishs the status of "Accused".
If the "Auto" gives the status of "accused" will hold a trial, public trial, with lawyers, witness.... and this Judge will say whether he is guilty or innocent.
Since this afternoon, and not before, he has the status of "imputado", it is obvious the journalists had violated his presumption of innocence.

When I speak of "Judge Instructions" he is a judge who only investigates ... and at the end of his work makes a resolution that concedes or no... the status of "accused", it is "Auto"

The Judge to decree if a accused is innocent or guilty is diferent
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Old 06-19-2009, 04:37 PM
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Here's a link to the story in English: AFP: Spanish queen's nephew charged with corruption: court

AFP says he was questioned before a judge for five hours today before being charged with influence-peddling.
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Old 06-20-2009, 02:08 PM
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In an article in German language on Page not found : Kanaren Nachrichten und Informationen from June 20th itīs said that heīs now officially accused of corruption and that they even have a permission now to search his private house in Puerto Calero!

Forgot to explain:If you click on the link you have to find "Lanzarote" in the row above (the canary islands are listed there) - but the article is in German
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Old 06-21-2009, 01:05 PM
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Can Anyone confirm that he was officially charged or that his status has changed to "Auto"?
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Old 06-22-2009, 02:25 AM
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Here's a link to the story in English: AFP: Spanish queen's nephew charged with corruption: court
Twenty-one people, including politicians and businessmen, have already been arrested since last month in the island of Lanzarote for alleged involvement in the affair, in which prosecutors say kickbacks were paid for municipal contracts.

Kind of sounds like it was "business as usual" for this to be done.
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Old 06-22-2009, 09:03 AM
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Can Anyone confirm that he was officially charged or that his status has changed to "Auto"?
A simple diagram of the Spanish criminal proceedings.

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The process is divided into two phases:
1-RESEARCH ("INSTRUCCION" in spanish)
2-THE TRIAL PUBLIC, with THE JUDGE, LAWYERS, WITNESSES ... so the parties must present evidence of the facts, it ends with a sentence.
Not all "IMPUTADOS" are "ACCUSED", so in the "AUTO DE CONCLUSION DE LA INSTRUCCION", Judge examines evidence found, and if he finds that they are insufficient or no evidence of this, the "IMPUTADO" will not be accused of anything ... This will also establish the type of crime that could have commit..This indictment

In the red the position current Carlos.

HE IS NOT "ACUSSED" still.

ACUSSED is in spanish "ACUSADO"
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I hope this matter will be cleared up soon, especially for the sake of Carlosīlovely family.
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Old 07-23-2009, 04:02 PM
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I agree with you, but the Spanish justice is very slow. I think that slow causes damage to the reputation of the person.This is unfair.

I think, in the end will not be formally accused with a crime by construct in a place in which not it can....because the judge investigating the case has not taken any measure against him or against his property(he has his passport!!!...He can travel freely), this is a very good sign because it means that the tests are very few , in conclusion, I think that he will not be formally accused.It is my opinio..
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Thanks, Beltraneja, for giving us some information. I sincerely hope all will be fine with this family.
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Old 10-14-2009, 03:55 PM
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Are there any news from the Spanish papers about Carlos's problems with the Justice department? I have not seen anything about it lately.
BTW They both look lovely.
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Old 10-14-2009, 04:37 PM
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Looks as if Carlosī influence peddling involvement isnīt as serious as it seemed in the beginning.
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Old 10-14-2009, 04:58 PM
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i agree with you,I think it is not as serious as we thought initially, I think this, from that he traveled to Greece this summer to spend his holidays,
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Old 10-14-2009, 05:35 PM
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Iīd like to ask the administrator to close this thread because there is every indication IMO that Carlosī involvement isnīt as serious as supposed in the beginning. I donīt think there will be any further reports.
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Old 10-14-2009, 09:51 PM
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Iīd like to ask the administrator to close this thread because there is every indication IMO that Carlosī involvement isnīt as serious as supposed in the beginning. I donīt think there will be any further reports.
Has the investigation been completed, and if so, what was the outcome?
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Old 10-14-2009, 10:14 PM
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Mr Morales was identified as a "Person of interest" as late as June 2009. The investigation is still open.
For the sake of fairness and transparency I believe the fair thing to do is wait for the outcome of the investigation.
Closing the thread may seem like an attempt to sweep it under the carpet.
When a person so close to the King and Queen is under a cloud (fairly or unfairly) it is owed to them to allow him to defend and clear himself of all suspicion.
I pray and hope all will be cleared soon and this will just be a bad memory.
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The thread will remain open until the investigation is concluded and the resulting legal actions, if any, are finalised.

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Old 02-01-2011, 05:23 AM
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Over on "Opiniones sobre la realeza"-message board there seem to be news about Carlosī entanglement into corruption. Can someone please make a summary since it is in spanish. Doesnīt sound good to me....
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I do not find the story in the newspaper, Where have you found it? I donīt find the link .
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