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Old 02-14-2016, 07:50 AM
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Could you explain why no Head for the Houses of Orleans Bragança and Brasil ?,
and For the House of Bourbon-Two-Sicile , why not the Duke of Castro ??
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Old 02-14-2016, 10:25 AM
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The Headship of the Imperial House of Brazil is not disputed since Prince Pedro Gastão's death, in 2007. His sons declared themselves republicans and even his nephew, the somewhat popular Prince João Henrique, said the entire Family now recognizes Prince Luiz as the rightful heir.

Besides, Prince Luiz, his siblings, nephews and nieces are the ones who advocate for the restoration of the monarchy, while the descendants of Prince Pedro Gastão couldn't care less. No to mention that the vast majority of the monarchists supports Prince Luiz's claims.
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Old 02-14-2016, 11:53 AM
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Could you explain why no Head for the Houses of Orleans Bragança and Brasil ?,
and For the House of Bourbon-Two-Sicile , why not the Duke of Castro ??
Thanks
The dispute in the House Bourbon-Two Sicilies is not thát very complicated. I give it a try: in 1960 the last undisputed Head of the House died without surviving male issue. The most senior males related to the last undisputed claimant in 1960 were:

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- Prince Carlo (1870-1949)
Brother of the last Duke. In 1960 he was already dead. One son.

2 - Prince Alfonso (1901-1964)
The son to Nr 1. Nephew of the last Duke.

3 - Prince Gennaro (1882-1944)
Brother to the last Duke. In 1960 he was already dead. No issue.

4 - Prince Ranieri (1883-1973)
Brother to the last Duke.

What was the problem with Prince Alfonso? In 1901 his father, Prince Carlo, married Doña María de las Mercedes, Infanta de España, Princess of Asturias. Heiress to the throne of Spain. Prince Alfonso was their son. When his father Prince Carlo married his mother, he had to renounce his rights in the House of Bourbon-Two Sicilies.

When the Duke of Calabria died in 1960, the logic way of thinking was:

1 - Prince Carlo (1870-1949)
Brother of the last Duke. In 1960 he was already dead. One son.

2 - Prince Alfonso (1901-1964)
The son to Nr 1. No dynast because his father renounced his rights.

3 - Prince Gennaro (1882-1944)
Brother to the last Duke. In 1960 he was already dead. No issue.

4 - Prince Ranieri (1883-1973)
Brother to the last Duke.

Despite this logic, Prince Alfonso still saw himself as the rightful head of the House of Bourbon-Two Sicilies. Wasn't he the most senior male agnate? He claimed his father only had to renounce his rights in the House of Bourbon-Two Sicilies as his fiancée, then the Princess of Asturias, was the Heiress to the throne of Spain. With the birth of her brother, the later King Alfonso XIII, this provision was no longer needed. So the "enforced" renouncation was repealed in his eye. The second argument: his uncle Prince Ranieri made an undynastical marriage with Maria Karolina Countess Zamoskya. This marriage did not meet the requirements of the House and therefore Prince Ranieri lost his place in the line of succession.

It is generally assumed that the royal houses of Europe do not go along with the claim of the "Spanish" Bourbon-Two Sicilies (now represented by Prince Pedro and Sofía Landaluce - picture) and support the claim of the "Italian" Bourbon-Two Sicilies (now Prince Carlo and Camilla Crociani - picture).

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Old 02-14-2016, 12:31 PM
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Well done Duke ,
Cadaval, the Duchess has 2 daughters, which one will be the heiress.
Only one daughter so far. Therefore no problem.
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