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Old 07-21-2015, 05:57 PM
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The article speaks about France, Romania, Albania, Portugal,Russia,Montenegro...
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Old 07-21-2015, 06:34 PM
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Thanks for the information!
The list seems to be usual.
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So is Le Figaro ignorant of the Comte de Paris or making a legitimist statement by featuring Louis Alphonse de Bourbon as the French king without a crown?


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Old 07-21-2015, 07:29 PM
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The article speaks also about the Orleans . The article's author was the one who also prepared these days a DVD with Prince Jean d'Orleans wedding.

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Old 07-23-2015, 08:54 PM
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See I do not understand this thread. The Royals in France were basically done away with. As I understand it, it was pretty gruesome, kind of like the Russians. Kind of male only thing there too. What you are speaking of in this thread are pretenders, that have no real place. The place of the Royalty in France is in the history of France, is with the people's knowledge of the history, right along with the history of the many many powerfully influential wars the French have had. There is no current monarch. French Monarchy is really more about wars than anything else. It isn't about hereditary as deeply as it is about war during the time of each reign whether or not there was a war and whether or not they fought or bought their way out of it. I am kind of picky about who I consider French royal, in history, personally as ridiculous as that is, but I don't see the Royalty to be some kind of English thing either or Spanish thing (poking a little fun, at you.) either. The French people themselves have achieved the point of Royalty though, to live like them and be equals, to live in a society that is as rich in culture and history as all the effort that went into it, if you really think about it, they do, they are a Unitary, semi-presidential, constitutional republic, that is the point of ever having Royalty in the first place. The objective of Royalty is to have all people to like they do and have the same amount of prestige to do for themselves and represent each other as people so the Royalty can be people. Just my opinion. We all have history in our hearts. However right or wrong my opinion may be.
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Old 07-23-2015, 08:59 PM
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I think that even though monarchies are deposed and disbanded, there is still an interest in the family bloodlines that continue into the present day. One reason why these families are listed under non-reigning houses in the forums. There's still a great interest in the royal families of a lot of countries even though they no longer reign.

If you scan through the list of threads listed under the the royal families of France, you'll find quite a few sub forums that deal with the historical aspect of French royalty.

Think of it as kind of like us Americans and the Kennedy family. Although involved in politics, its Jack and Jackie and their family that generate the most interest and are still talked about today. There's even a thread for them somewhere here I believe.
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Old 07-25-2015, 06:28 PM
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See I do not understand this thread. The Royals in France were basically done away with. As I understand it, it was pretty gruesome, kind of like the Russians. [....]
You seem to think that the monarchy ended with the beheading of Louis XVI.

After this we have had Napoléon I Bonaparte, Napoléon II Bonaparte, Louis XVIII de Bourbon, Charles X de Bourbon, Louis-Philippe d'Orléans and finally Napoléon III Bonaparte. None of them was assassinated, beheaded, whatever. The family De Bourbon de Parme (which owned the magnificent Château de Chambord, see picture) and the family d'Orléans (which still owns the Château Royal d'Amboise, see picture) were unbelievably rich. Until WWII they counted as belonging to Europe's most wealthy familes. Poor choices and mismanagement diminished their once so dazzling fortunes. Any comparison with the Russians is not possible, in my humble opinion.

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A section of the Le Figaro article where the Duke of Orleans and the Duke of Anjou are mentioned as well as a photo from the Duke of Orleans's birthday celebrations from the article:
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Princess Clotilde of Orleans and her family in Miami.

Aug. 19, 2015. Princess Clotilde of Orleans poses with her husband Edouard Crepy and children, Louis Nicolas, Charles Edouard, Gaspard, Augustin and Eleonore in Miami, USA


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Thanks dbarn67. It's nice to learn news and for the most "unknown" royals to me at least.
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A gathering of members of the Bourbon family in Paris, among them Don Luis Alfonso de Borbon (future duke of Franco), Anne of the Two Sicilies (Castro branch), Francoise of Bourbon-Parma, Tania of Bourbon-Parma, the duke and duchess of Seville etc.

Dîner des membres de la famille de Bourbon - Noblesse & Royautés

The gathering was not attended by prince Sixte-Henri of Bourbon-Parma.
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The presence of HRH the Duke of Anjou was very important. It is not sure his mother will accept to become Duchess of Franco and so..He was there as a descendant of the House of Bourbon and with his Bourbon titles.
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The presence of HRH the Duke of Anjou was very important. It is not sure his mother will accept to become Duchess of Franco and so..He was there as a descendant of the House of Bourbon and with his Bourbon titles.
He has no Bourbon titles. He names himself Duc de Touraine, Duc d'Anjou and Duc de Bourbon, he names his sons Duc de Bourgogne and Duc de Berry, all historic French titles, but in essence his only link to France is his grandmother Emanuelle de Dampierre.

His far ancestor Philippe de Bourbon, Duc d'Anjou solemnly renounced all his rights on the throne of France, for himself and for all his descendants. This has been notarized in legal documents and is ratified by all powers of the time. In front of witnesses, during a public ceremony, Philippe - Felipe V - solemnly swore with his hands on the Bible.

This strict separation of the two thrones was a condition by the powers. Thanks to this the Bourbons could gain the throne of Spain. When Luis Alfonso fights the legitimity of all this, he is in essence saying that his ancestors as Kings of Spain were "illegal" because they became King thanks to the very same acts and treaties he claims to be null and void...



When Luis Alfonso de Borbón is the rightful King of France, then I am the rightful Farao of Egypt... Come on... he is a comediant and he knows it. It is the same nonsense as the De Bourbon de Parmes creating Spanish titles, which are not recognized by anyone else. Luis Alfonso also is not the ainé des capétiens (the most senior male in the House of Capet), that is Charles de Bourbon-Busset, Comte de Busset (who was one of the guests in Souvigny, this weekend, so it seems).
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A gathering of members of the Bourbon family in Paris, among them Don Luis Alfonso de Borbon (future duke of Franco), Anne of the Two Sicilies (Castro branch), Francoise of Bourbon-Parma, Tania of Bourbon-Parma, the duke and duchess of Seville etc.

Dîner des membres de la famille de Bourbon - Noblesse & Royautés

The gathering was not attended by prince Sixte-Henri of Bourbon-Parma.
I missed the Dutch, the Luxembourgian and the Austrian De Bourbon de Parmes. It seems a company around Charles Édouard de Lobkowicz (full cousin of the current Duke of Parma).
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He has no Bourbon titles. He names himself Duc de Touraine, Duc d'Anjou and Duc de Bourbon, he names his sons Duc de Bourgogne and Duc de Berry, all historic French titles, but in essence his only link to France is his grandmother Emmanuelle de Dampierre.

His far ancestor Philippe de Bourbon, Duc d'Anjou solemnly renounced all his rights on the throne of France, for himself and for all his descendants. This has been notarized in legal documents and is ratified by all powers of the time. In front of witnesses, during a public ceremony, Philippe - Felipe V - solemnly swore with his hands on the Bible.

This strict separation of the two thrones was a condition by the powers. Thanks to this the Bourbons could gain the throne of Spain. When Luis Alfonso fights the legitimity of all this, he is in essence saying that his ancestors as Kings of Spain were "illegal" because they became King thanks to the very same acts and treaties he claims to be null and void...



When Luis Alfonso de Borbón is the rightful King of France, then I am the rightful Farao of Egypt... Come on... he is a comediant and he knows it. It is the same nonsense as the De Bourbon de Parmes creating Spanish titles, which are not recognized by anyone else. Luis Alfonso also is not the ainé des capétiens (the most senior male in the House of Capet), that is Charles de Bourbon-Busset, Comte de Busset (who was one of the guests in Souvigny, this weekend, so it seems).
All his titles are French titles of the house of Bourbon.
The two Crowns cant be united because HRH the Duke of Anjou is not in line to the spanish Throne.
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He can call himself whatever he wants, I suppose. However that doesn't make the pretence true. If we start ignoring laws and treaties, what a mess the world would be. The crux of his claim is that some scary ultra-conservative French monarchists would prefer to see a dog on the vacant throne over a member of the house of Orleans. A pity that Don Luis Alfonso has allowed himself to be used for their hatred & agenda.
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Well, Luis Alfonso was there because he is a descendants of the House of Bourbon, just like the other attendants, and nobody can deny this fact.
I wouldn't read in his attendance any particular significance with regards to his claims and his claimed titles.
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That is true but what Prince Sixte-Henri de Bourbon de Parme (himself an ultra-conservative anyway) finds unacceptable -and he has a point- is that the Spanish gentleman uses and distributes titles of the Maison de France. The other guests seem to support him or (more likely) pretend not to know his pretensions.

Prince Sixte-Henri is known for opening his Château de Lignières for assemblies and summer camps of the Centre royaliste d'action Française in full support of Prince Henri d'Orléans.

Picture: HRH Prince Sixte-Henri de Bourbon de Parme posing in one of the salons of the Château de Lignières
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Prince Louis of Bourbon is a descendant of Louis XIV of France and represents the eldest Royal Line of the Bourbons.
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I don't know in what capacity the Spanish gentleman was there. He can not have been there ais the ainé des capétiens, as that position is held by the Comte de Busset. He can not have been a representant of the House of Spain because he does not belong to that. He can not have been there as a representant of the House of France because he does not belong to that.
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