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Old 03-17-2009, 08:43 PM
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My God thank you for this miracle : Point de Vue talking about French royalty
It will be the first time in years that I will buy it (I used to buy it every week) !
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My God thank you for this miracle : Point de Vue talking about French royalty
It will be the first time in years that I will buy it (I used to buy it every week) !
It's amazing, isn't it? Things must be pretty quiet in the Sarkozy/Bruni household for this to happen!
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Old 03-18-2009, 07:14 AM
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Here is a summary of the Article in Point de Vue
France | Noblesse & Royaut├ęs
According to it Philomena wil wear a tiara who belongs to her Family and a 200 old veil which is worn by the brides of her Family.
Her gown will be from Christian Lacroix.
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Old 03-18-2009, 01:44 PM
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And an edito with a fun drawing of Rachida Dati with Jean and Philomena : Point de Vue *.:.* ├‰DITO .:. Mariage Royal ├* Paris
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Old 03-18-2009, 01:58 PM
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Nice that PdV is actually paying attention to the wedding (as they did to the Orleans-Cadaval one), finally an issue that I will buy and read with pleasure. The bride-to-be looks very refined btw.
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Old 03-19-2009, 06:55 PM
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The posts about the civil wedding ceremony of prince Jean and Philomena de Tornos have been moved to this thread in the 'Royal Weddings' subforum.
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Old 03-24-2009, 06:42 PM
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Ancestors of Philomena de Tornos y Steinhart

Philomena's family tree shows ancestors from Havana (Cuba), Austria, Hungary, Czech Rep., and of course Spain.
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Old 04-07-2009, 06:16 PM
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Bunte composed a short video of the coiuple, also showing a small part of their civil wedding: StarStyle.TV: StarStyle.TV - BUNTE
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And an edito with a fun drawing of Rachida Dati with Jean and Philomena : Point de Vue *.:.* ├ëDITO .:. Mariage Royal ├* Paris
Thank you for the cartoons - they are priceless!
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Old 04-07-2009, 06:43 PM
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Marengo,
Thanks for the video!
It has been my pleasure to see Ms.Rachida Dati performing duties as a mayor in one of Paris' city districts. The couple seems to be happy.
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Did you know, that the wedding dress of P. Philomena de France has been created by Christian Le Croix?
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It was created by Christian Lacroix, an adaptation of his collection wedding dress.
The original dress is in this link (you click on the photo, then it is PP; 54-55) :
Christian Lacroix, haute couture printemps-├ęt├ę 2009
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Old 05-11-2009, 07:07 PM
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Tilla,
I am aware of the fact that both gowns worn by Princess Philomena were created by Christian Lacroix. Ribbons and lace paired with exquisite embroidery might be viewed as his signature features. The wedding gown was a bit overloaded to my taste. At the same time, the above dress was a masterful interpretation of the haute couture gown.
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She is no aristocrat, she is a commoner
She might not be royal, but she is an aristocrat...from both sides of her family.

From her father's side, she is great-grandfather is Louis de Zubiria, Marquis de Yanduri and many other Spanish noble families.

Through her mother's side(Antonia, Edle von Steinhart) she is related to her husband Prince Jean d'Orleans.

Their closest common ancestor was Count Jaroslaw Borita z Martnic.

Here is Philomena's line from Count Jaroslaw:


Count Jaroslaw Borita z Martnic, 1582-1649
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Countess Elisabeth Corrona Borita z Martinic, died in 1649
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Countess Maria Maximiliana Eva Zdiarsky von Zdiar, died in 1690
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Baroness Ludmilla Johanna Hieserle von Chodau, died in 1725
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Franziska Rabenhaupt von Suche, 1682-1732
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Baron Wenzel Franz Obitecky von Obitec-Rabenhaupt und Suche, 1709-1777
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Baron Cajetan Obitecky von Obitec-Rabenhaupt und Suche, 1745-1810
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Baron Franz Obitecky von Obitec-Rabenhaupt und Suche, 1780-1845
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Baroness Marie Johanna Obitecky von Obitec-Rabenhaupt und Suche, 1811-1860
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Baroness Gabriele Wilhelmine Johanna Adelheid Beata von Podstatzky-Prussinowitz und Thonsern, 1848-1913
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Gabriele Sophia Wilhelmine Emma Maria von Michalkowski, 1877-1963
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Gabriele Felicitas Murad von Werner, 1913-1939
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Maria Antonia, Edle von Stinhart, born in 1944
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Maria Philomena Magdalena Juliana Johanna de Tornos y Steinhart, born in 1977


Here is Prince Jean's line from Count Jaroslaw:


Count Jaroslaw Borita z Martnic, 1582-1649
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Countess Ursula Polyxena Borita z Martinic, 1637-1681
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Countess Maria Eleonora von Sternberg-Holicky, 1654-1703
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Count Franz Wenzel von und zu Trauttmansdorff-Weinsberg, 1677-1753
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Countess Maria Theresia von und zu Trauttmansdorff-Weinsberg, 1703-1757
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Count Franz Josef Kottulinsky von Kottulin, 1742-1801
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Count Josef Johann Kottulinsky von Kottulin, 1773-1850
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Count Josef Kottulinsky von Kottulin, 1806-1878
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Countess Elisabeth Kottulinsky von Kottulin, 1850-1929
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Countess Elisabeth Dobrzensky de Dobrzenicz, 1875-1951
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Princess Isabelle d'Orleans-Braganza, 1911-2003
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Prince Henri d'Orleans,Comte de Paris, born in 1933
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Prince Jean d'Orleans,Duke de Vendome,born in 1965
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