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Old 08-13-2014, 09:34 AM
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Is Charles-Philippe the Duke of Cadaval?
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Old 08-13-2014, 09:55 PM
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Is Charles-Philippe the Duke of Cadaval?
On June 21st, 2008, Charles-Philippe wed Diana, the 11th Duchess of Cadaval.
Charles-Philippe became the Duke of Cadaval jure uxoris.
Jure uxoris is Latin for "by right of his wife".
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Old 10-13-2014, 05:46 PM
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Diana and Charles Philippe attended some fashion shows at Moda Lisboa
http://images.cdn.impresa.pt/caras/2...jpg?v=w364h555
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Old 10-13-2014, 06:39 PM
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Diana and Charles Philippe attended some fashion shows at Moda Lisboa
http://images.cdn.impresa.pt/caras/2...jpg?v=w364h555

Hmm a very handsome couple but let's hope they got some sartorial inspiration from the fashion shows they attended.


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Old 10-28-2014, 11:41 AM
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Prince Charles-Philippe d'Orléans and the Duchess of Cadaval attended the opening of the exhibition "The Givenchy" at the Thyssen-Bornemisza Museum in Madrid, Spain. Princess Miriam of Bulgaria was also present. The exhibition displays several Givenchy dresses, including those worn by the Duchess of Windsor, Audrey Hepburn and Jackie Kennedy:

Prince Charles-Philippe and the Duchess of Cadaval ~ One of the dresses at the exhibition

Source: Le duc et la duchesse d’Anjou à l’exposition Givenchy

I have a question - as Prince Charles-Philippe is the Duke of Anjou like Prince Louis Alphonse, I was wondering who has the stronger claim to the title, and if (and that's a very big if) France were to become a monarchy again, who is more likely to be granted it?
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I suppose that that depends on the person you are speaking with. The Orleanists will say it is CP, the legitimistes will say it is Don Luis Alfonso de Borbon.

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Old 10-29-2014, 01:29 PM
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I suppose that that depends on the person you are speaking with. The Orleanists will say it is CP, the legitimistes will say it is Don Luis Alfonso de Borbon.

More info in this thread:Rival Claimants to the French Throne
Thanks for the link, Marengo. I will read more of the thread later so I can get some idea, but what I asking was that who technically has the stronger claim in general, and not in the eyes of an Orléanist or Legitimist (because I understand that their opinion will be biased given on who they support)? Or is it too much of a complex situation to answer in an overall term, if that makes sense?
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Thanks for the link, Marengo. I will read more of the thread later so I can get some idea, but what I asking was that who technically has the stronger claim in general, and not in the eyes of an Orléanist or Legitimist (because I understand that their opinion will be biased given on who they support)? Or is it too much of a complex situation to answer in an overall term, if that makes sense?
It is in fact not so difficult. The most senior male Bourbon is Don Luis Alfonso de Borbón y Martínez Bordíu. In that sense he is the rightful pretender on the throne of France.

Problem is that when the thrones of France and Spain became both in Bourbon hands, all major European powers including France and Spain agreed in a groundbreaking international treaty: the Treaty of Utrecht (1713). Not only the recognition of Gibraltar as British territory, the ceding of French claims in Canada to the UK or the ceding of the Spanish Netherlands to the Habsburgs were part of this Treaty. Also the separation of the thrones of France and Spain was part of it. Philippe de Bourbon, Duc d'Anjou, who became King Felipe V of Spain ceded all rights and claims on the throne of France for himself and all his descedants. Only with this strict condiction, all major powers agreed with these two mighty kingdoms in the hands of one royal dynasty.

Since then we speak about the Spanish Borbóns and the French Bourbons. Don Luis Alfonso is a Spanish Borbón and his claim on the throne of France is only acceptable when the Treaty of Utrecht is considered null and void.

When the Treaty of Utrecht is respected, Henri d'Orléans, the most senior "French Bourbon" is the rightful claimant to the throne of France.
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