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Old 12-26-2003, 09:49 AM
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According to Imagine Scandinavia, they are not engaged yet, but soon to be? I thought Hola had announced that they were? At any rate, pictures of the pair together ...

Imagine Scandinavia - Madrid, Spain. Picture: Vacationing together LUIS ALFONSO DE BORBON WILL SOON GET ENGAGED TO MARGARITA VARGAS SANTAELLA

Luis Alfonso de Borbon, son of the late Duque de Cadiz, cousin of King Juan Carlos, and Carmen Martinez Bordiu, oldest granddaughter of Francisco Franco, will soon engaged the young Venezuelan beauty Margarita Vargas. Luis Alfonso is considered by the french legitimists the Duke og Anjou, claimant to the French trone, called Louis XX and he holds dual citizenship. The young couple met at the wedding of her oldest sister Maria Victoria with his friend Francisco D´Agostino almost two years ago. Since them they had met in different places, Niagara Falls in New York, Beaver Creek in Colorado, Miami...etc. They share same interests and hobbies, like ski, horseback ridding, Luis Alfonso de Borbon was borned April 25th of 1974 in Madrid. He lost his oldest brother after a tragic car accident many years ago and years later he lost his father at another tragicsituation, this time it was a ski accident in Colorado while he was preparing an international ski competition. He studied Business and later completed a Finances Master at the University of Cuñes. He works as consultant and asset manager for the Paris National Bank, Paribas, in Madrid Margarita Vargas borned in Caracas, Venezuela, on March 18th 1983 and she had lost her only brother when he was only 18 years old due to illness. She is in her second college year at the Metropolitan University of Caracas persuing a degree in Early Education. Her parents are Victor Jose de Vargas, president of the Occidental Bank of Venezuela and great polo player and hunter. He mother is Carmen Leonor Santaella, devoted to her her family and to her charity "Fundation Enclave" dedicated to poor children. She belongs to a very traditional family, one of the riches families in Venezuela.
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Old 12-26-2003, 09:50 AM
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Imagine Scandinavia - Luis Alfonso de Borbon, son of the late Duque de Cadiz will soon engaged the young Venezuelan beauty Margarita Vargas.

Imagine Scandinavia - Luis Alfonso de Borbon, son of the late Duque de Cadiz will soon engaged the young Venezuelan beauty Margarita Vargas.

Imagine Scandinavia - Luis Alfonso de Borbon, son of the late Duque de Cadiz will soon engaged the young Venezuelan beauty Margarita Vargas.

Imagine Scandinavia - Margarita with her parents Victor Jose de Vargas, president of the Occidental Bank of Venezuela and great polo player and hunter. He mother is Carmen Leonor Santaella, devoted to her her family and to her charity "Fundation Enclave" dedicated to poor children. She belongs to a very traditional family, one of the riches families in Venezuela.

Imagine Scandinavia - MARGARITA at Family Reunion

Margarita Vargas borned in Caracas, Venezuela, on March 18th 1983 and she had lost her only brother when he was only 18 years old due to illness. She is in her second college year at the Metropolitan University of Caracas persuing a degree in Early Education. Her parents are Victor Jose de Vargas, president of the Occidental Bank of Venezuela and great polo player and hunter. He mother is Carmen Leonor Santaella, devoted to her her family and to her charity "Fundation Enclave" dedicated to poor children. She belongs to a very traditional family, one of the riches families in Venezuela.

Imagine Scandinavia - Margarita's parents Victor Jose de Vargas, president of the Occidental Bank of Venezuela and great polo player and hunter. He mother is Carmen Leonor Santaella, devoted to her her family and to her charity "Fundation Enclave" dedicated to poor children. She belongs to a very traditional family, one of the riches families in Venezuela.

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Imagine Scandinavia - Margarita with her siblings

Imagine Scandinavia - Margarita as a baby

Imagine Scandinavia - Margarita's first communion
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Old 05-01-2004, 11:18 AM
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What do you think about his election to marry with Maria Margarita Vargas. Remember that he is a possible king in the almost impossible case that France returns to be a Monarchy. ?
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Old 05-01-2004, 09:45 PM
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Firstly, I think she's incredibly young!!! She's alright. She's no beauty queen, however being a millionaire's daughter is a help, too! At least she's not completely heinous looking !!!
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Old 05-02-2004, 11:33 AM
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Hello,

It's difficulte to me to speak english but I try: if Louis wants te be married with Maria because he love her there's not any problems. But I think monarchy can take good things into a republique. I angry, because Louis fighted several years to be recognize as Louis XX. Now, he isn't make something to France apart from beautiful mass and a engagement in "ordre des chevaliers de malte". What I want to say is if he wants realy to be in charge with french people why he isn't make something concrete. Where's does he make is military obligation? Not in france that sure. Why does he live in Spain or in USA? Yet, he give at french people the biggest reason to think monarchy and king are disgusting as président and other république men. French people have many problems: unemployement, violence, divorce, no confidence in futur, no moral values...They needs a model of devotement and love. The french monarchy is dead, it's right. But the alliance between republique and monarchy is not born. But it's an ideologie and since forever the first ideologie is money and power, not vocation and honour. It's stupid because if louis wants to change just a few he can, I think....like the little boy in the american film: un better world. Is her gilfriend interesting of french people? Could she give his fortune to help french? What do you thing about this?
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Old 05-04-2004, 10:59 AM
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I hear that they will marry in Palm Beach on november 7th. Do you know if this is true?
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Old 05-04-2004, 11:51 AM
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In the FRench magasine HOLA: propos recueillis par nicolas diat:
"je suis très lié depuis trois ans avec une jeune femme originaire du vénézuela. Mais je veux encore réfléchir avant de prendre une décision. Je suis un peu effrayé par tous ces couples qui se marient et divorce deux ou trois après."

He's afraid, so I'm not sure He fixes the date of wedding
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Old 05-19-2004, 04:21 PM
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Of course he is afraid. He has lived his life as a consummate bachelor. Does Margarita care about the French people? Who knows! I don't think the French people are the first on his mind when it came to selecting a bride.
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Old 05-24-2004, 05:45 AM
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Please do not forget that Monseigneur le duc d'Anjou had a rather tragic faimily life. His parents divorced, his grandparents were also divorced. He lost his brother, he lost his father.
He became head of the House of Bourbon when he was very young. So, according to me, what he really needs now is a happy family life. And a wife ready to love him, ready to spend all her life with him and to educate their children in the holly catholic faith.
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Old 05-24-2004, 05:59 AM
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Louis-Alphonse was at the spanish wedding do you know if his fiancee was there?
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Old 05-24-2004, 09:03 PM
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No, she wasn't there. I saw him with an older lady beside him. Which makes me question the engagement. If she is his fiancée, shouldn't she be making at least a few appointments with him? The wedding seems like a very easy occassion as compared to other functions where the onus is more on him.
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Wasn't the lady his grandmother, the duchess of Franco. Can anyone send some picture of LA in this wedding ?
Thanks :-)
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Old 06-01-2004, 05:07 PM
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Originally posted by Aubisse@May 24th, 2004 - 4:45 am
Please do not forget that Monseigneur le duc d'Anjou had a rather tragic faimily life. His parents divorced, his grandparents were also divorced. He lost his brother, he lost his father.
He became head of the House of Bourbon when he was very young. So, according to me, what he really needs now is a happy family life. And a wife ready to love him, ready to spend all her life with him and to educate their children in the holly catholic faith.
I totally agree. Luis Alfonso had a sad chilhood and I hope his wife can give him all the love his need. At least she seems to be a sweet girl for me
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Louis-Alphonse de Bourbon, Duke of Anjou (2ndR), arrives, 08 June 2004 at Saint-Denis basilica, where the tiny heart of Louis XVII, the son of the beheaded king Louis XVI and queen Marie-Antoinette, was put in a royal crypt outside of Paris. Louis-Charles, the so-called "lost dauphin" who would have reigned as Louis XVII, died of tuberculosis at the age of 10 on June 8, 1795 in a windowless cell in the French capital's Temple prison, where he had been incarcerated with his parents before they were guillotined.


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I know that he is related to the Spanish royal family, but how is he the predenter to the French throne? Wasn't his dad a spanish duke?
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I know that he is related to the Spanish royal family, but how is he the predenter to the French throne? Wasn't his dad a spanish duke?
Luis Alfonso's father, Don Alfonso de Borbon y Dampierre, was the elder son of the late HRH Infante Don Jaime of Spain.

Jaime was the second son of Alfonso XIII. He renounced his right to the throne in 1933 because he was mute and deaf. Two years later, he married an Italian noblewoman. The marriage was not equal (but that didn't matter because he had already renounced his rights and the rights of his descendants.)

Alfonso married Franco's granddaughter Carmen. Franco created him HRH and duke of Cadiz. Luis Alfonso is their younger son.

The duke of Cadiz was a first cousin on Juan Carlos, whose father, HRH Infante Don Juan, Count of Barcelona, was the third son of Alfonso XIII.
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<The marriage was not equal (but that didn&#39;t matter because he had already > <renounced his rights and the rights of his descendants.)>
-> according to spanish laws, the marriage may has been unequal. (anyhow the bride&#39;s father was a duke and he wasn&#39;t italian but french). According to french laws there is no unequal mariage. The heir of the french throne is the head of the Bourbon family.
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Luis Alfonso is not the heir to the French throne - he descends from Philippe. Duke of Orleans, who renounced his rights (and the rights of his decendants) to the French throne, when he became King of Spain.
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Old 06-10-2004, 10:03 AM
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Emanuela&#39;s father was an Italian duke - not royalty. However, Jaime had already renounced his rights and the rights of his descendants 2 years before he married.
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Old 06-11-2004, 10:49 AM
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Originally posted by Marlene@Jun 10th, 2004 - 9:58 am
Luis Alfonso is not the heir to the French throne - he descends from Philippe. Duke of Orleans, who renounced his rights (and the rights of his decendants) to the French throne, when he became King of Spain..
He descends fom Philippe, Duke of Anjou, not Duke of Orleans.

I will not discuss the renounciation story with you. See heraldica.org to have the full Orleans vs Anjou story.
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