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Point de Vue and other reports stated that his mother made a big fuss over the seating arrangements during the reception (along with other things she was unhappy with!).
It must have been rather embarassing for LA as the reception was held at one of his bride's father's properties. I wonder if she has ever been invited back? 
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10-07-2006, 01:57 PM
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From what I have read in Hola and Point de Vue she seems to be a very egocentric, rather immature, woman. Does anyone know if she has a substance abuse problem or other issues or just a narcissistic personality?
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10-07-2006, 02:28 PM
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Carmen Martinez Bordiú is simply a woman who always has done what has wanted, and continues doing it. Recently she has married for third time, and now she devotes herself to dance in a program of television, grants many interview to the magazines. Always she has been an a bit special woman, but nothing more.
Luis Alfonso was raised by his grandmother more than his mother, but he is the first one that knows perfectly like she is his mother, and till now he had not had problems with it. Before his wedding, he did not have problems in appearing with his mother and his grandmother in an article, in which he was posing in places related to his life, included any polemic place related to his great-grandfather Franco.
What the Spanish journalists say is that now to appear with his mother he is not interested. His mother is a liberal woman, who does what wants without importing anything for her ... and it now does not please to the rich and conservative family of the wife of Luis Alfonso. Carmen Martinez Bordiu has married for third time, her son was not present at the wedding, and neither he knows the new husband of his mother; even it seems there is moving away from Cinthia, his sister.
He has the title, the Vargas the money; and now he prefers appearing to the world as the Duke of Anjou, with plane deprived with included shield. His mother does not agree very much with this image.
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10-08-2006, 02:33 PM
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Which grandmother was he raised by -- is her name something like Emanuelle Dampierre?
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10-08-2006, 04:03 PM
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Which grandmother was he raised by -- is her name something like Emanuelle Dampierre?
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Yes. She is Emmanuelle de Dampierre; her mother was a Ruspoli princess and her father a roman/papal duke.
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10-08-2006, 04:09 PM
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Yes. She was the Duchess of Segovia and her family is from the old aristocracy:
Emanuela de Dampierre (Born 8 November 1913 Rome) daughter of Roger de Dampierre, Duke of San Lorenzo and Donna Vittoria Ruspoli.
Here is more on the Dampierre family Maison de Dampierre. Emanuela Dampierre is listed almost at the very end when you scroll down the link.
I just found a nice genealogical link where I got the above information, It lists her and many other Bourbons we don't hear about, but I'll place it in the Genealogy sub forum under the links for The Orleans Family (France) and their relations...
ps. Danielane, I think we posted at the same time! 
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10-10-2006, 08:54 PM
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Thank you for this confirmation. I just read an article about Luis Alfonso and Margarita Vargas and there was a photo of them in a mass with his grandmother. I take it they have a close relationship.
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10-10-2006, 09:53 PM
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Well, I am just happy that LA seems to be well-adjusted and happy now, especially considering his past-his brother's & father's death, his parents divorce...Someone must have had a stable influence in his upbringing and he must also be a very very strong person.
And he doesn't go by Duke of Cadiz anymore? B/c that's what his father was right?
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10-10-2006, 10:14 PM
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No, the King took that title back since it belongs to the Crown. Think of the British titles that are recycled through generations given to different individuals but not passed from father to child. Same thing in Spain.
The King could give him a permanent title to pass to his children but I doubt that will happen. Too much family bad blood between the two bands of Bourbon cousins.
I'm glad he and his wife are starting a family, and I hope is a big one. Luis Alfonso's short life has been one tragedy after another one.
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10-11-2006, 05:56 PM
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Maybe that explains why he always seems to have a "scowl" on his face... always pouting. I don't know... he doesn't seem to have a very nice demeanor. His new wife is always smiling and seems cheerful. Maybe she'll make him smile a little more too.
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01-06-2007, 08:00 AM
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According to Carmen Franco (Luis Alfonso's grandmother), the baby will be a girl. She stated this to Hola.
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01-06-2007, 08:06 AM
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A little girl-how sweet! Still think LA is very handsome (especially with a beard!) so maybe the new baby will make him smile more.
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01-19-2007, 10:46 AM
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Awwwwwwww how sweet!  Maria Margarita looks wonderfully cute and happy. Very nice, nice pictures (love LA's smile!) 
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02-15-2007, 06:12 AM
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Is Luis Alfonso de Borbón Luis XX of France?
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02-15-2007, 08:22 AM
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Yes, he is French King Louis XX for legitimists
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03-06-2007, 05:25 AM
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Baby girl for Luis Alfonso de Borbon and Margarita
LUIS ALFONSO OF BORBÓN AND MARGARITA DE VARGAS SANTAELLA HAS BEEN PARENTS OF GIRL that will receive the name of Eugenia, arrived at the world in a clinic from Florida
6 MARCH 2007
Luis Alfonso de Borbón and Margarita de Vargas Santaella has been parents of a girl, according to informed the own Duke into Anjou to the agency of the news EFE. The small one, to that they will put by Eugenia name, was born in Florida, the United States, to six of afternoon (in Spain it was already midnight).
The first daughter of the marriage, that was born by means of Caesarean, weighed 3,700 grams and measured 52 centimeters. He himself Luis Alfonso called to this agency to inform into the happy news. As much the mother as the girl is in perfect state of health.
LUIS ALFONSO DE BORBÓN Y MARGARITA DE VARGAS SANTAELLA HAN SIDO PADRES DE UNA NIÑA
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03-06-2007, 06:01 PM
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Congratulations to the family hopefully we will see pictures of the tot! I loved the name and I'm glad to hear they are all well. Would she be the claimant to the throne after her father or do they only accept male heirs like in Japan? Eugenia has a lovely link ot her Spanish family. I wonder if there will be middle names?
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03-06-2007, 06:52 PM
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For the French claimants, I think it's only males.
Congrats :) Eugenia is such a pretty name, a nod to LA's great-grandmother, Queen Victoria Eugenie perhaps?
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